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Joined: Dec 2007
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Anyone know where I can get standard 100w light bulbs locally ? They seem to have disappeared. I've tried places like Sainsbury's, Wilkinson, and Home Bargains but to no avail,
My mum is in her 80s and her sight is not that good at night. The stairway needs to be properly lit and 60W or low energy bulbs just don't go bright enough.
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Are'nt 21 or 22w energy savers the equivalent?
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They have been out lawed and are to never be seen again in this contry, get em where stocks last!
Uncertainty or not knowing causes depression, Im happy because I know I'm going to die one day!
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They have been out lawed and are to never be seen again in this contry, get em where stocks last! Is that right ? Lunacy. The people who have brought in this legislation have no idea that people with poor sight need their stairs properly lit for the time it takes them to go up or down. The problem with low energy bulbs is that they take a while to achive full brightness and I personally find that they aren't as bright as their old fashioned equivalents. Oh well. There seem to be plenty available online anyway.
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Highly recommend getting a twin lamp adaptor and using two 23Watt power savers, still uses half the eleccy of a 100Watt and gives MORE light.
I have had the occasional 23Watt that is near enough equivalent to 100Watt but most aren't. The GE (General Electric) 23Watt are pretty good, a few seconds warm up time to full brightness in a warm room, these have four thin loops (ie 8 thin tubes).
I am yet to find a power saver bulb that lasts anywhere near the claimed life - they either fail or loose their brightness.
Also available are the halogen low voltage bulbs with an inbuilt transformer, not tried them yet but being a filament bulb they may give a better quality of light than a fluorescent - and they can be used with dimmers. These are the same order of efficiency as the CF lamps.
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I tried them bud, same result as when the first low energy bulbs came into play.
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I tried them bud, same result as when the first low energy bulbs came into play. The halogens are you talking about?
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Yer, There are brighter alternatives. Moreton alarms have a few good ones on display atm
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I think it funny that they banned the domestic bulbs but I don't think they have banned those highly inefficient 500W security lamps.
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Thanks for the heads up shall grab the old type when i see any
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I think it funny that they banned the domestic bulbs but I don't think they have banned those highly inefficient 500W security lamps. So stupid isnt it, those alone are the same as lighting 5 rooms in a house...
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Same as 25 rooms in power saving bulbs
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Anyone know where I can get standard 100w light bulbs locally ? TJ's had hundreds of 'em last time I looked. A quid for 4
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Tesco have a halogen one a that's near equivlent straight plug in BC, believe it or not it's still possible to get the 100w as they haven't been banned for business,the ones I have at home are a GE 75w = 100w, 1340 lumen halogen ,please make sure your fittings will take them as halogen do run hot.
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The 100W old (filament) type are not banned from SALE - but IMPORT is now banned. That means the limited supplies available will eventually be depleted (except of course sneaky imports will continue for years yet)
NO WAY do the 21W modern type equate to 100W filament. My personal estimate is that the stated rating of the modern type (which is a power consumption rating NOT a light output rating) understates by about 30% ie really you need something like 35W modern to equate to 100W filament in terms of light output.
I have also tried the halogen type with built in transformer - awful. Took it out within a few hours and stuffed it in a drawer. Not bright enough and the colour of the light was poor.
The way forward is surely LED technology. The only issue for that and domestic lighting is now how to get the colour of the light satisfactory for domestic. That IS AVAILABLE for the security lighting type of lamps and they do give very bright light. As my security light bulbs need changing I will be moving to LED type lamps (despite 2.5 times the cost for the lamp) because that will save in the long term.
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5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
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