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cools #1029771 30th Jan 2017 2:59pm
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If you actually read the text of the Executive order, it doesn't mention ANY country or countries at all. So you might well ask, where are the mainstream press getting their stories that Trump named or singled out, or banned 7 countries?

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because it causes trouble and people then jump to conclusions and then it makes news

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Could be!
People are apparently, intentionally or otherwise, not aware of the difference between the RESULTS of the E.O. versus the actual CONTENT of it.

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I think a lot of the leave votes from the brexit referendum was to stop a lot of immigration (freedom of movement and possibly told by the EU how many refugees we may have to take) coming into this country.
We seem to think giving monetary aid to the refugee camps is better than opening our borders to a number of the refugees fleeing war torn countries.

I think at the moment it could be a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
How many other countries could Brits be welcome to come and stay in if we said we were christians

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Originally Posted by venice
I think he's done this a bit crudely and needed a little refinement before presentation , and Im not hell bent believing on what Im about to say because Im dithering about rights and wrongs --- ,but I cant help thinking -

lets pretend we had a killer disease spreading around the world , but it could be carried only by people with a certain genetic makeup .Out of those, relatively few might have something extra in their makeup that precludes their transmitting the disease. Which answer would protect the UK from the spread of disease the best ?

Should we

a) stop every person from entering the UK immediately

b) stop just those from countries where we know most will be of this genetic makeup and not worry immediately about the ones who wouldnt be a danger becaue they carry the extra protection.

c) Let everyone in so we dont infringe anyones human rights, and set about vetting everyone carefully for signs of the disease ?

Remember this ban would only be for a few months until the situation could be got under control.


It should be a) initially then re-assess to see if you can move to b), but our political leaders would end up doing it the other way round and hope they can correct their mistake afterwards.



Trump has chosen (b) surely? which is why he's being accused of being discriminatory . Does that mean choosers of (a) think he's wrong?

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A very brief input from Farage earlier (ok, so Farage might be a dirty word but he has knowledge) said that it was Obama who had drawn this up , prior to the end of his Presidency.

As much as I'm not particularly approving of Trump for different reasons, this protest has got totally out of hand and it seems like a knee jerk reaction from many, probably due to some little shit in this country, named 'Owen Jones', who is likely to be one of the greatest trouble makers this country has ever known.

http://labourlist.org/2017/01/owen-...s-against-national-shame-of-trump-visit/

Owen Jones, the columnist and Labour supporter, has organised an event in London outside 10 Downing Street, to stand in solidarity with those who are targeted by Trump’s executive order.

Speakers will include shadow business secretary Clive Lewis and the former Labour leader Ed Miliband. Shadow attorney general Shami Chakrabarti will also address the event, which so far has 18,000 attending on the event page.



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Pity we cannot get a million protesters to petition against the state of our NHS.

granny #1029783 30th Jan 2017 6:23pm
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This picture of seven men deciding what women can and can't do with their reproductive organs sickens me.
I find him abhorrent.

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Originally Posted by granny

A very brief input from Farage earlier (ok, so Farage might be a dirty word but he has knowledge) said that it was Obama who had drawn this up , prior to the end of his Presidency.

As much as I'm not particularly approving of Trump for different reasons, this protest has got totally out of hand and it seems like a knee jerk reaction from many, probably due to some little shit in this country, named 'Owen Jones', who is likely to be one of the greatest trouble makers this country has ever known.

http://labourlist.org/2017/01/owen-...s-against-national-shame-of-trump-visit/

Owen Jones, the columnist and Labour supporter, has organised an event in London outside 10 Downing Street, to stand in solidarity with those who are targeted by Trump’s executive order.

Speakers will include shadow business secretary Clive Lewis and the former Labour leader Ed Miliband. Shadow attorney general Shami Chakrabarti will also address the event, which so far has 18,000 attending on the event page.


Here, read the President's Executive Order for yourself:
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Here is the full list of protests planned tonight.

LONDON

TIME: 6pm

MEET: Downing Street

ATTENDEES: 20,000 (note: these figures were taken from Facebook at 11am on Monday).

SPEAKERS: Include Ed Miliband, Tim Farron, Mhairi Black, Clive Lewis, Bianca Jagger, Lily Allen.

READ MORE on Facebook event

MANCHESTER

TIME: 6pm

MEET: Albert Square

ATTENDEES: 1,900

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BRIGHTON

TIME: 6pm

MEET: Brighton Town Hall

ATTENDEES: 1,800

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CARDIFF

TIME: 6.30pm

MEET: Queen Street

ATTENDEES: 1,400

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NEWCASTLE

TIME: 5.30pm

MEET: Grey’s Monument

ATTENDEES: 1,300

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CAMBRIDGE

TIME: 5pm

MEET: Great St Mary’s Church

ATTENDEES: 1,100

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BIRMINGHAM

TIME: 6pm

MEET: Victoria Square

ATTENDEES: 1,000

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GLASGOW

TIME: 6pm

MEET: George Square

ATTENDEES: 600

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LEEDS

TIME: 5.30pm

MEET: Dortmund Square

ATTENDEES: 500

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LIVERPOOL

TIME: 6pm

MEET: St George's Hall

ATTENDEES: 500

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YORK

TIME: 5pm

MEET: St Helen's Square

ATTENDEES: 500

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EDINBURGH

TIME: 6pm

MEET: The Mound

ATTENDEES: 200

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LEICESTER

TIME: 5.30pm

MEET: Haymarket Memorial Clock Tower

ATTENDEES: 150

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PRESTON

TIME: 6pm

MEET: Harris Museum & Library

ATTENDEES: 150

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EXETER

TIME: 6pm

MEET: Bedford Square

ATTENDEES: 400

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Others include...

Aberdeen - 6pm Castlegate

Aberystwyth - 6pm Aberystwyth Bandstand, Marine Terrace

Bangor - 7pm at the clock

Bristol - 6pm College Green

Broadstairs - 6:30pm outside Broadstairs Tory Office

Cheltenham - 7pm Promenade

Derby - 5.30pm Derby City Council

Dundee - 6pm Dundee City Square

Guildford - 2pm Uni of Surrey

Hull - 5pm Queen Victoria Square

Leamington Spa - 6pm Town Hall

Melton Mobray - 5pm Alan Duncan’s office

Mile End, noon QM University

Nottingham - 5:30pm Market Square

Plymouth - 5:30 pm Charles Cross police station

Portsmouth - 7pm Portsmouth Guildhall

Preston - 6pm Harris Library

Sheffield - 6pm Town Hall

Surbiton - 5pm Surbiton station

St Andrews - 7pm St Andrews Student Union

Swansea - 6pm Castle Square

Totnes - 6pm Fore Street

York - 5pm St Helen’s Square

Witney, 6pm Market Square

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Originally Posted by palemoon
Pity we cannot get a million protesters to petition against the state of our NHS.
withthat

KONP is booking a coach with


tickets at £5 each.
we hope that there will be enough demand from others to fill


this coach. As far as I know, this is currently the only coach from


Liverpool on the day.


tickets will go in News from Nowhere by Thurs. News from Nowhere address is


96 Bold Street, Liverpool L1 4HY


Depart Hardman St (opposite the Philharmonic) 7am Sat 4th Mar.


When you get a ticket, be sure to give News from Nowhere your contact


details, including a mobile # on the day.

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Originally Posted by kittykat
This picture of seven men deciding what women can and can't do with their reproductive organs sickens me.
I find him abhorrent.
Most people do Kittykat...the last time I looked over 7 000 people in Wirral had signed the petition..you can see the constituency break down.

This site does NOT represent Wirral viewpoints atall.

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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom.

Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen.

Donald Trump's well documented misogyny and vulgarity disqualifies him from being received by Her Majesty the Queen or the Prince of Wales. Therefore during the term of his presidency Donald Trump should not be invited to the United Kingdom for an official State Visit.
I'm not alone: as of now the petition stands at:

Birkenhead 1995 sigs
Wallasey 1757 sigs.
Wirral South 1394 sigs
Wirral West 1592 sigs

http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com?petition=171928

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CVCVCV #1029790 30th Jan 2017 7:43pm
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Farage is not a dirty word to me

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I've got to say Rude it surprises me you putting this statement up whenever royalty has come up on this site you one of the first to rubbish them. Have you become a royalist all of a sudden?

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