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The EU will be looking to divide an conquer the British. Signs of backing brexit will strengthen our negotiating team.

Some EU politicians are telling their people that over 80% of the British are now against brexit.

Yes DD but not signs given in such an arrogant manner- surely that will just get up their noses?

Looks like Diane Abbott has been ditched and replaced by Lyn Brown, who resigned from the same position last year in June 2016.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/election-2017-40184379/diane-abbott-taking-break-from-campaign

Not before time too, stupid woman!! Well big day tomorrow..

There are some really nasty (and hopefully illegal) tricks going on.

Labour says that it is going to review council tax .... tories broadcast the following ....

"Under proposals, the new tax would be imposed as an up to 3 per cent levy on the value of land.

A Tory analysis estimates this would result in a yearly tax bill of £3,837 for an average family home in England – a massive 224 per cent increase on the current average council tax bill of £1,185."

How can this sort of thing be allowed to happen? The tories have completely made up those figures themselves and word it such that it looks like they are Labour's figures.

Not really sure what all that means. Looks like a whole load of sh,te .

It would be a Garden Tax on top of the Council Tax. Depending on how much your land is worth, it could quite easily be so much in total.

Full article, and as stated if people are to pay more tax on their gardens, then all it will do is lower property prices. Affecting 10 million people.
It would also hit farmers who are currently exempt from council tax.
Then people would try to move house to a smaller one with smaller gardens, but there wouldn't be any available.
Land grabbing and basically following trends from the Latin American countries that he so much admires.
We aren't in Latin America, thank goodness and don't want to have the same political systems.

The man is painfully mental.

http://www.hortweek.com/labour-mani...raised/parks-and-gardens/article/1434977

So, all these wonderful things he's about to introduce ,should he get elected, is going to take everything from anyone with anything they have worked hard to achieve and donate it all to the financing his unworkable plans for financing everything else plus the benefits claimants of this country, including all foreigners who are entitled to anything they want, like health, education, services and benefits....and they DO claim masses!

Communism, here we come.

Communism = a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

He hasn't said he's going to introduce it.

In reality it does make sense when there is a shortage of building land.

Well maybe!

The current system already includes the value of the land, it is based on the rentable value of the property, not just the building. Perhaps he may consider separating the building and the land into separate taxes however I think the conclusion will be that the administration cost will outstrip the viability.

I think there needs to be more bands, lower end three and even four bedroom properties are in the same band as a lower end bedsit which is grossly unfair.

The fairest system so far was the Poll Tax but the media decided otherwise. The cost to the council is roughly proportional to the number of people. Why should two adults pay the same council tax as eight adults, Poll Tax removed this anomaly.

Surely (the above in red option) the rentable value is attributed to the area also. I can't see a few more Bands being an answer. If some pay less, who is going to pick up the slack ? There can be some very nice and very modern 2 bedroom apartments in the same area as run down, old 3 bedroom semis. Who is to say the 2 bed should pay less, it's not totally based on the number of bedrooms.

I agree, the Poll Tax was a good idea, and before that was introduced, a lone pensioner lived next door to me,(3 bed semi) a family of 5 adults lived opposite, mum dad and three mature family members, all with good jobs such as one as secretary ,another an architect. All 5 worked and paid the same council tax.
The families with older working teens would have been the losers then, maybe it could have been adjusted accordingly to make it fairer. I can't remember too many of the details.

Ok to give a better example, two identical houses next to each other, one is divided into four flats and the other is wholly occupied. Where the whole one is bottom band rated, they pay the same as each of the flat owners next door who only have a quarter of the property.

Is that a house divided into 4 separate self contained flats, EACH occupant individually pays the council, the same as the occupants living in an identical 4 bedroomed house ?

That seems grossly unfair. Unless the flats are rented and the landlord takes the council tax , which could then mean he's not applied for planning permission (fiddle).

Yes, understand your point from your previous post. Get a council tax assessor in. It might get reduced.

On paper you are right. you can.t go lower than the bottom rate.In reality I doubt you will find a bottom rated house that would be big enough to split into four individual flats so rules apply. Flats are separate dwellings. Bedsits that share facilities are not shown on the list as separate dwellings..

One thing you can guarantee is come this weekend we will have the same useless #### or a different useless ####

Yes Dilly, and I'll be glad to see the back of it. It feels as if life has been on hold for months.
Think I'll be a green supporter. Can't get into any arguments then. Everyone votes differently in this family, and that must be a good thing, as at least they can each think for themselves.