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Excoriator #1038201 30th May 2017 3:55pm
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Oh yes. One of your hero's

Insurrection = a violent uprising against an authority or government.

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I think I'll vote Lib/Dem. At least , if they were elected we'd all be able to smoke pot and swoon over the possibility of having psychosis in the near future where nothing will matter at all ! Yipeee !


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Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by casper
Hi granny, very droll, here's one to think on:

There is no such thing as paranoia.
Your worst fears can come true at any moment.

As for Dave Cameron its not about the money, its about Dave marching into Sports Direct accompanied by his minders straight to the front of the queue in true Tory style, without even the the courtesy of an excuse me, manners cost nothing, the arrogance must have come from his days as a buller boy and the belief that you can bully and pay for your way out of anything.


The difference is Casper, that's not got anything to do with political policies and manifestos !


Yes I know granny, it was a follow on about individuals that emanated from your comments about JC being a snake in the grass which I also believe has nothing to do with manifestos and policies (sorry about the sarcasm) we have people from all parties that have no right to be there, that are in it for themselves and what they can gain from it, take for example Neil Hamilton disgraced ex who Tory has wormed his way back onto the Westminster gravy train courtesy of UKIP, and there are many like him.

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Somebody seems rattled.

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Corbyn pledges one million jobs for British workers

The "vast majority" of the one million good quality jobs Labour has pledged would go to British workers, Jeremy Corbyn has said.
The vast majority will be for people coming out of our schools and our colleges and our universities - and we will not allow anyone to only recruit overseas for jobs here.

He said Labour would build an economy where "everyone shares in our country's wealth".

Who is everyone ?

Asked if he could guarantee that all or a proportion of the one million jobs would go to British workers, Mr Corbyn said after the speech: "They would obviously be for people looking for work.

"They've got to recruit in an open way so that everyone gets a fair chance.

Who is likely to be getting the 'fair chance' in that case. Maybe a twist on words ?


A Labour government would pump £250bn into industry through a new national investment bank to "unleash" untapped potential across the country, he said.
Where is the money coming from ?

Speaking in York, Mr Corbyn said Labour's industrial strategy was "serious, comprehensive and radical".

Leading innovator

After Mr Corbyn's speech, shadow business secretary Rebecca Long-Bailey said Labour's first industrial mission would be to ensure that 60% of UK energy comes from low carbon or renewable sources by 2020.

Renewables produce more than 20% of the UK’s electricity, and EU targets means that this is likely to increase to 30% by 2020.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40127661

Today he's at Age (Concern) and saying that he thinks care homes that can't manage should go into Council Authority. Does that mean our council tax will increase even more, as there has been no mention from him to give more allowance to councils or financial support for social care ? (not that I have heard)


This man is a pain in the bum. I actually hope he wins this election because the gripes won't stop if he doesn't win . Let the people see how they end up after 5 yrs of his Government, it's not even Labour, and if Tony Blair was standing again, (and all know my thoughts about him,) I think it would be preferable. That is without telling a lie Mr Corbyn.


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Councils traditionally provided care homes, after all, the councils fund many people in them. Its only in recent times that the councils have contracted out to private homes on a large scale.

I can't see anything else negative in what you say other than I don't understand the necessity for low carbon power, Jeremy could do with listening to his brother on that one.

Banks as you know make very large profits.


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Oh come on granny, we can all cherry pick from statements made by both sides, Terry May won't rule out income tax hikes, right after that statement Michael Fallon and Boris are saying there will be no tax rises not for the top 5% ??? who is running the Tory ship the 1922 committee? perhaps they all follow her to see whats she's going to do or say next, the best one is there aren't any money trees, in her response to the nurse last night, perhaps someone should have reminded her that this Island of ours is a great big money tree for the hedge fund merchants and the tax evaders.

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Originally Posted by casper
Oh come on granny, we can all cherry pick from statements made by both sides, Terry May won't rule out income tax hikes, right after that statement Michael Fallon and Boris are saying there will be no tax rises not for the top 5% ??? who is running the Tory ship the 1922 committee? perhaps they all follow her to see whats she's going to do or say next, the best one is there aren't any money trees, in her response to the nurse last night, perhaps someone should have reminded her that this Island of ours is a great big money tree for the hedge fund merchants and the tax evaders.


Not cherry picking, Casper. Asking questions and you haven't given any answers !

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Councils traditionally provided care homes, after all, the councils fund many people in them. Its only in recent times that the councils have contracted out to private homes on a large scale.

I can't see anything else negative in what you say other than I don't understand the necessity for low carbon power, Jeremy could do with listening to his brother on that one.

Banks as you know make very large profits.


Where is the money coming from i.e. £250 billion to set the bank up ?


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The Treasury and Bank of England already exist, there is no £250 billion to set it up, there may be some loan option fees and then some short term intermediate bridging but nothing like that sort figure.

There will be some risk but as is the same as investing, the wider the number of loans the lower the risk.


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Originally Posted by granny
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Oh come on granny, we can all cherry pick from statements made by both sides, Terry May won't rule out income tax hikes, right after that statement Michael Fallon and Boris are saying there will be no tax rises not for the top 5% ??? who is running the Tory ship the 1922 committee? perhaps they all follow her to see whats she's going to do or say next, the best one is there aren't any money trees, in her response to the nurse last night, perhaps someone should have reminded her that this Island of ours is a great big money tree for the hedge fund merchants and the tax evaders.


Not cherry picking, Casper. Asking questions and you haven't given any answers !


Neither it would seem have the Tories, confused.com, oh! sorry they have, but then they changed their minds, best to leave it as an open manifesto with little detail, then they can alter it later on to suit their agenda.

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
The Treasury and Bank of England already exist, there is no £250 billion to set it up, there may be some loan option fees and then some short term intermediate bridging but nothing like that sort figure.

There will be some risk but as is the same as investing, the wider the number of loans the lower the risk.


Ok, so is it right that Politicians sit on the board and direct Bank Lending ?
Spain's banking system is almost bankrupt and bankrupting the country.
This is not a new idea. Vince Cable was the first to get this idea approved back in 2010 .
UK Green Investment Bank has fallen flat on it's arse and sold to an Australia Bank ,5/6 yrs later.


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Its not been said that politicians will sit on the board, if they do they will probably be in the minority.

The German National Investment Bank Works (Kluckboard or whatever its called) as do many other countries'.

It will also be replacing some EU banking schemes that we will be losing on Brexit.


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I have to ask about the electoral process within care homes and residential homes .

The residents will obviously get their polling card, but what proof is there that they themselves actually put the X in the box for the postal vote ?

I think that is open to a huge amount of fiddling .


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This has made me laugh. A structure erected on the white cliffs of Dover in Kent. These are the sort of skills they possess in Kent. laugh

Sending a clear message across the channel.

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/rude-theresa-may-structure-erected-126737/


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Funny in isolation , but not likely to enhance our negotiations with the EU lol! Believe its been removed now.

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