I see the Russians have now mentioned the proximity of Porton Down where they are perfectly capable of manufacturing the stuff. For all we know, someone dodgy there could have supplied it to Skripal for use elsewhere by almost any group in the world. I noticed some footage shown of Skripal buying a scratch card, which implies he was not exactly rolling in cash.
The conservative lynch-mob have howled this down, but as Porton Down is only eight miles away and deals in the stuff it is at least plausible. Of course, it might be just coincidence...
I see the Russians have now mentioned the proximity of Porton Down where they are perfectly capable of manufacturing the stuff. For all we know, someone dodgy there could have supplied it to Skripal for use elsewhere by almost any group in the world. I noticed some footage shown of Skripal buying a scratch card, which implies he was not exactly rolling in cash.
The conservative lynch-mob have howled this down, but as Porton Down is only eight miles away and deals in the stuff it is at least plausible. Of course, it might be just coincidence...
The proverbial "red" herring, next they will be saying there was an escape of agent from there, it appears you would rather take the Russian explanation Ex, no doubt the waters will be muddied further in the next few days, so Skripal was short of money bought some agent from Porton Down with money he didn't have and infected himself and his daughter with it.
Hi folks. Just can't get my head around all this lot. Too many points to ponder. I have not read all the posts made so not referring to any of them, just my thoughts going down on print.
Bad stuff happens, always has done, but for use of a nerve agent in a public place seems totally irrational (IMO) being instructed by Putin. He's no fool and would know the implications and the consequences of such an act . Why the perpetrator wait to do the dreaded dead until his daughter had arrived on UK soil ?. Why was the attempted assassination not done previously either by the same method or with a different method as in the suspected murder of the Russian last week, and many more besides. ? This highly toxic nerve agent never used before and knowledge it was against all international laws. Why has it been reported that only Russia had this nerve agent , when yesterday in an interview on BBC, one guy said 'as we all know USA developed this agent in 1996' ?
I am finding all of this as a way of initiating conflict and I tell you why . Syria : Assad's only friend is Russia. Russia has it's gas pipelines going through Syria and Iran to Turkey and onto Europe . Israel have found gas in the medi and want to pipe it through Syria, Lebanon and onto Turkey, which means that Russian supplies will be affected. USA wanted regime change in all the middle eastern countries.
We have US supporting the anti government terrorists in Syria we have Turkey killing the same people off in Afrin. Afrin is the area that the pipeline will go through , so far as I can see. We have UK paying over £20million to the White Helmets who are supporting or connected to Al Nusra ( allied with Al Qaeda and enemies of (ISIS ) We have Assad being accused of chemical weapon attacks on his own people, in the region of East Ghouta , however, international bodies cleared all the chemical weapons from Syria . However, ISIS, Al Nusra, FSA, and others who inhabit East Ghouta have chemical weapons, they also have stored caches of military weapons that are French, US, Israeli and others.
Now that Afrin is just about cleared with goodness knows how many dead (which we do not hear about) only what is suspected of Assad's crimes, but no one mentions that the hospitals, schools, and many other institutions have been taken over and run by the terrorists . The people are in fear of the terrorists. Now listen to this guy, Tom Duggan. He has lived in Damascus for 5 yrs (about with his family) A British journalist. I tend to hear what he's saying rather than the media reports we get in this country, and possibly because my daughter met a number of Syrians when she was in UAE, all of whom said they were happy with Assad, no one disliked him, they had a good life and all religions got on together. The country was a beautiful country. I believe that now Turkey have cleared Afrin area of the Kurdish militia, Erdogan stated that it would be their territory from now on and now the coast is clear for more invasion by US and 'allies',(that's us) to finish the job off. UK need an excuse and this nerve agent is a damned good one to get the peoples support for war. I think of our young men , yet again possibly being dragged into something that does not concern us.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Great you're back Granny. What a worrying and murky state of affairs this is. I don't know all the ins and outs just that it's like something out of a spy novel and I don't like it at all...
Think Boris Johnson is way out of line on this. His comments are very provocative and sabre rattling. Nothing's been proved beyond doubt and don't like the way this situation is being handled.
Think Boris Johnson is way out of line on this. His comments are very provocative and sabre rattling. Nothing's been proved beyond doubt and don't like the way this situation is being handled.
The man is a complete buffoon and shouldn't be allowed to mix with the grown ups, its not like the buller club were you insult everybody cause damage and then get your check book out, this is the real world with severe consequences for the wrong words being spoken, he's already got someones sentence lengthened, perhaps with a few more well chosen words of his thoughtless wisdom he can cause Armageddon, surprise, surprise, who pays again?
Hi girls , Cools and Snowhite(thanks for comments good to see you are still around ) , and Casper.. I'm just popping in (again)
Follow up on my last posts.
Can't understand why May is making such a massive issue in EU over this. It's like her path to glory. Rallying the troops ? Is it synonymous with becoming a leader of a Government that they have to create an explosive situation ? The badge of honour maybe ?
Crown Prince Do Dah from Saudi Arabia visited. Do we know why ? More arms for the oncoming slaughter ?
Trump has fired Gen McMasters and replaced him with John Bolton, who served under Bush's administration .
President Donald Trump is replacing US National Security Adviser HR McMaster with Bush-era defence hawk John Bolton.
In a tweet, Mr Trump said he was thankful for Gen McMaster's service and he had done an "outstanding job". Mr Bolton will take the job on 4 April.
Mr Bolton, who has backed attacking North Korea and Iran, told Fox News his job would be to ensure the president has "the full range of options".
YESTERDAY:
Ten yrs since and Israel only just admit to it ? Sounds very similar to Colin Powell's speech at the UN , giving all the reports of chemical weapons, nuclear missiles and everything else that was written into his script to provide false evidence in favour of invasion and weapons inspector David Kelly dared to argue . Remember him ?
This is another lie of Israel in my opinion ... lets not forget, what Israel wants , Israel gets by fair means (not very often) or foul.
Israel has for the first time confirmed that it destroyed a suspected nuclear reactor being built in Syria in 2007. +++++++++
Some might see this as conspiracy, but the West and Israel wants Assad out of Syria, and the only way it seems (as Assad is making ground now and retaking his towns and cities) is to get involved . How are they going about it ? By making a case against Russia,(Assad's only ally). Boris (although he didn't say the initial comparison which is causing fury in the East, someone else did ) agrees with it, and is acting in a very confrontational manner. It's either complete stupidity or deliberate .. with intent ! Can't decide which , but he's not giving confidence as Foreign Secretary in such difficult circumstances.
Great fun while he was playing tennis, but the last service sent the ball over the wall and now he can't get it back.
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Hello granny, nice to see you back, I don't see the Skripal episode as a conspiracy, I think the Russians were involved, as I said before the assassination was bungled and caused some collateral damage and contamination which wasn't part of the plan, it is now being manipulated by Mrs May the same way Thatcher manipulated the Falklands conflict (god save the Queen) and used it for political gain nothing suites the Tories more than waving the Union Flag, perhaps Boris should have studied modern history before he made his comments and looked up those L.ords and members of the Tory party that were ready to jump into bed with Hitler in 1939
As you notice on the fake news[BBC1] Theresa May, Merkel and the French prime minister all sitting together cosy on the seats supporting this Russian nothing burger poisoning.
I really hope this back fires on them big time
I wonder if the victims will ever be able to tell what really happened !
Hi girls , Cools and Snowhite(thanks for comments good to see you are still around ) , and Casper.. I'm just popping in (again)
Follow up on my last posts.
Can't understand why May is making such a massive issue in EU over this. It's like her path to glory. Rallying the troops ? Is it synonymous with becoming a leader of a Government that they have to create an explosive situation ? The badge of honour maybe ?
Crown Prince Do Dah from Saudi Arabia visited. Do we know why ? More arms for the oncoming slaughter ?
Trump has fired Gen McMasters and replaced him with John Bolton, who served under Bush's administration .
President Donald Trump is replacing US National Security Adviser HR McMaster with Bush-era defence hawk John Bolton.
In a tweet, Mr Trump said he was thankful for Gen McMaster's service and he had done an "outstanding job". Mr Bolton will take the job on 4 April.
Mr Bolton, who has backed attacking North Korea and Iran, told Fox News his job would be to ensure the president has "the full range of options".
YESTERDAY:
Ten yrs since and Israel only just admit to it ? Sounds very similar to Colin Powell's speech at the UN , giving all the reports of chemical weapons, nuclear missiles and everything else that was written into his script to provide false evidence in favour of invasion and weapons inspector David Kelly dared to argue . Remember him ?
This is another lie of Israel in my opinion ... lets not forget, what Israel wants , Israel gets by fair means (not very often) or foul.
Israel has for the first time confirmed that it destroyed a suspected nuclear reactor being built in Syria in 2007. +++++++++
Some might see this as conspiracy, but the West and Israel wants Assad out of Syria, and the only way it seems (as Assad is making ground now and retaking his towns and cities) is to get involved . How are they going about it ? By making a case against Russia,(Assad's only ally). Boris (although he didn't say the initial comparison which is causing fury in the East, someone else did ) agrees with it, and is acting in a very confrontational manner. It's either complete stupidity or deliberate .. with intent ! Can't decide which , but he's not giving confidence as Foreign Secretary in such difficult circumstances.
Great fun while he was playing tennis, but the last service sent the ball over the wall and now he can't get it back.
Lets see we have a Russian "formerly" in the spying business living close to Porton Down. His daughter goes on "holiday" to Russia and comes back with a nerve agent in her suitcase (according to some MSM ) 1) she could have been smuggling it into the country for a) an assassination hit or b) for Porton Down
The nerve agent escapes in the home of spy and after many hours the couple take ill around about the same time. Police officer visits spy home and takes ill immediately?
