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IDS back to his old ways, he wants to have the two metre rule scrapped. This would literally be exchanging lives for money.
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IDS back to his old ways, he wants to have the two metre rule scrapped. This would literally be exchanging lives for money. He's got a pub/eatery ! Would that make a difference ?
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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One might think so, but I couldn't possibly comment.
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As we know a number of "raves", have taken place the latest in Manchester, a spokesman for the police said after the last one at which a girl was raped and a man stabbed we will use robust enforcement in future, three shot in Manchester, the police were present but a spokesman said due to the numbers it was impossible to control, an open admission / invitation for raves to carry on and any other gathering of numbers because the police can't cope it's about time questions were asked of government of how they propose to deal with any serious breakdowns of law and order, or as usual will they just ignore it until it becomes critical, too little too late.
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The mass gatherings are on the up, and now they are talking of reducing the 2 metre social distancing rule, as many other countries are at 1 metre. I cannot see a 2nd wave happening and think It is time to open everything and get back to normal.
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Big spike in Germany but due to meat processing plant as is that breakout in Anglesey chicken plant. In fact seems to be very prevalent all round the world in these sort of environments. And that was where it was apparently started in Wuhans wet market. It must be so hard to apply all the social distancing , sanitisation and everything in these hands on factories dealing with meats...
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The mass gatherings are on the up, and now they are talking of reducing the 2 metre social distancing rule, as many other countries are at 1 metre. I cannot see a 2nd wave happening and think It is time to open everything and get back to normal.
That would be the quickest way to see a second wave, complacency as Bert said, everything is not normal, it just appears that this horrific virus has disappeared, it only needs one person in a crowd to light the fuse, a few thousand bag heads dancing around swapping spit and sharing drugs and the link is live, and as they are irresponsible and thoughtless morons they wont report any contacts.
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After all these BLM protests, raves and other huge gatherings, we will see in a couple of weeks if there was a danger to do this. Let's look at them, as an unofficial test to see if it is safe. They are reducing the social distancing to 1m, so the scientists think it is safer, well, safer than previously anyway.
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Speaking of the BLM protests, according to the news the illegal gathering in Manchester was a spin off from a BLM protest as many from the protest moved on to join the party, a police spokesman said these parties are a usual happening in the Moss side community, really, well that's alright then Mr policeman, no wonder there was a reluctance to intervene, wouldn't want to upset anyone, I wonder what BLM has to say on the matter?
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Frightened of upsetting people, but they might be sorry.
Despite our Covid 19 deaths reducing, UK still has the next greatest number per 1 million of the population at 628 followed by. Spain with 606. Belgium is the highest with 837 per 1 million population, so I'm not sure how concerned we should still be as there must be more intensity for us than in other countries.
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Big spike in Germany but due to meat processing plant as is that breakout in Anglesey chicken plant. In fact seems to be very prevalent all round the world in these sort of environments. And that was where it was apparently started in Wuhans wet market. It must be so hard to apply all the social distancing , sanitisation and everything in these hands on factories dealing with meats... Germany in a meat packing plant. Return to localised lockdown but only until 30th June, which to me seems rather short, and it says the R rate in Germany is 2.76 ! Just shows how meat, whether human flesh or animal flesh can obviously be carriers. Pig flesh is nearest to human flesh . Must be different to any previous air -borne virus. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53149762
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Frightened of upsetting people, but they might be sorry.
Despite our Covid 19 deaths reducing, UK still has the next greatest number per 1 million of the population at 628 followed by. Spain with 606. Belgium is the highest with 837 per 1 million population, so I'm not sure how concerned we should still be as there must be more intensity for us than in other countries. And now the daily covid report backs are being discontinued, I wonder if they will still publish the death rate figures daily?
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And now the daily covid report backs are being discontinued, I wonder if they will still publish the death rate figures daily? Load of wimps, when have we ever had a cabinet that was drawing short straws each time to decide who was going to visit the press? In ongoing situations like this we have always had one main presenter.
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And now the daily covid report backs are being discontinued, I wonder if they will still publish the death rate figures daily? Load of wimps, when have we ever had a cabinet that was drawing short straws each time to decide who was going to visit the press? In ongoing situations like this we have always had one main presenter. I think you will find that each member who appeared in the daily Covid updates were connected to the particular dept. that was being referred to that day. So the transport minister gave an update of the travel arrangements, the Home Secretary gave an update of the police... etc. etc. Personally , that makes sense . otherwise what's the point in having different Governmental positions and departments ? The point is , a couple of people can't do it all. We've been through a major upheaval and I'm not sure any one of them would have got it all right, considering we went into this blindfolded and ignorant , and still nobody knows what is likely to happen next. I don't think we have actually had another situation like this in my life time.
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