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placidmaster #208542 20th Feb 2008 2:57am
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Originally Posted by placidmaster
tell me a petrol pug with these miles that dont need a hg changing

My XR had 165,000 and was as sweet as dream in the engine when I sold it.

Did think it needed a clutch rebuild within the next 12 months though, hence I got rid.

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I might just go for a 1.6/1.8 petrol, But i want all the sporty trim/elc windows etc etc raftl

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save a packet dude go for tdi


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Nah wtf man.... get a DTurbo!!!!

Dont go for a std 1.6 petrol... their slower then the DTurbo's (thats without a stage 1), higher insurance and more expensive to run!

No sense in that at all!!

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I just don't know if i could cope with the sound, I think the XSI/GTI-6 are out the question due to insurance raftl

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Man fook the sound.... get a decent sound system soon drown out any derv noise trust me!!

In fact the XRDT and the DTurbo's have decent systems anyway as standard!

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Right then, My next question is, Can i have some info on both the XRDT and the DTurbo please ? Thats both mk1 and mk2 smile

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Both the same matey, sum are quoted as 90bhp, some are quoted as 92bhp, same XUD engine though.

Widely regarded as the first decent mass production diesel engine. Detuned by Pug to allow the XSi a good advantage over them in tests, so they can be tuned easily.

XRDT/XTDT is more standard looking but still a bit more sportier then the likes of the XLDT, good features A/C, EW, ES etc, the DTurbo looks like the XSi but demands a higher price. The DTurbo had a few other subtle differences, possibly in setup although not 100% on that.

The XUD was replaced by the DW10 which is the HDi in like 1999 or 2000 cant remember. Better MPG, harder to tune.

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What is best then, A mk1 or mk2 ? What year did the mk1 become the mk2 (face lift) ?

Cheers for all this info Matty mate thumbsup

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xud started the revolution for pug, how many pugs was taxis in the uk till the 405 came along with the xud td came along, only thing to watch was the gearboxes as they were designed for the smaller petrol engines and were not the best at handling the torque, ask any high miler taxi pug owner how many boxes he has had ( i mean gearboxes lol)


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Originally Posted by Mitsubishi_Sean
What is best then, A mk1 or mk2 ? What year did the mk1 become the mk2 (face lift) ?

Cheers for all this info Matty mate thumbsup

Not Mk's mate, phases. The car never changed just the shell.

There was the Ph1, which is the first one. Ph2 was the next one, only a bit different from the Ph1 though, about 96 or summit. The Ph3 is the really modern one that lost all the aggressiveness... that was about 98 or 99.

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It was just a face lift wasn't it from the ph1 to the ph2 ? Lights, Grill etc ?

Witch is best for power etc etc ?

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Originally Posted by Mitsubishi_Sean
It was just a face lift wasn't it from the ph1 to the ph2 ? Lights, Grill etc ?

Witch is best for power etc etc ?

On the Ph1 and Ph2, the 2 is better for reliability "slightly"... over time they found a few things they cud make better. All the same power.

Almost all the Ph3's are DW10's so they dont come into it.

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td, cheaper insurance, cheaper for garage work, more parts available second hand, overall much cheaper to run and most important thing, its derv powered so has the low down torque for pulling away well hard from the lights and also because of the torque u spend less time changing gears, valuable if u spend most time driving in town


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plus it runs on chippy oil lol!


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