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i mentioned it bein a roof was i rite then :S...


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Being of.. erm.. mmm. mature years (Chris is still leading the field), can someone tell me what "flumped" (as in flumped off the beams) means ? Bungy jumping, abseiling ? Surely too much of a drop to just drop down. I think you would only do it once ... and you wouldn't bounce!!

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Originally Posted by rentaclown100
triangle bit prob a lift shaft, the girders are there to hold the land apart, if they had to carry a track, they would have to be supported from much deeper down. if they dig a hole in the street 6 foot deep they use acro props to keep the sides in check


I'm doubtful about the lift shaft idea. It's a very odd shape & it's immediately over the tracks. I'll try to contact Railtrack; whichever department deals with building maintenance should know. You're right, the girders don't support a track; the track to Mollington St. ran just about over the retaining wall on the Rock Ferry platform.





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Originally Posted by rentaclown100
green lane was originally a terminus during steam days and was left uncovered for comfort. said girders also supported station roof via suspension


That makes sense about leaving it open for comfort. Don't understand quite what you mean by the last sentence though, about the roof being supported by suspension. Incidentally, the roofing isn't parallel with the tracks. At the Rock Ferry end, the vaulted roofing barely covers the platform; at the other end, it covers most of the tracks too.


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Another interesting (well, to me) bit of information. On the 1909 map which I posted, the only station building was the square 3 storey bit. What is now the booking office, & everything else down to Green Lane was added later.


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there were platform canopies probably fixed at the wall and suspended from the girders to the front


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Originally Posted by rentaclown100
there were platform canopies probably fixed at the wall and suspended from the girders to the front


Thanks; now I understand. Is that a fact, or supposition?

Cheers, Chris.


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my old man told me about canopies and some form of suspension, so it makes sense to me to fix at wall and hang the front otherwise you need to have deep-set girders to carry the weight of a canopy


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if not a lift shaft could it be some sort of vent. seems daft when staion has no roof, but if you have an old chuffer waiting to go to liverpool it would spew a fair bit of smoke


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Originally Posted by rentaclown100
if not a lift shaft could it be some sort of vent. seems daft when staion has no roof, but if you have an old chuffer waiting to go to liverpool it would spew a fair bit of smoke


Thanks for the info. on canopies; makes sense.

As far as the strange triangular construction is concerned (& there's a couple of shots of it in my Green Lane photo gallery), I thought it might be a vent for, as you say, a standing loco waiting to depart. The only problem with that idea is that it's not shown on the map of 1909 & steam finished in 1903.

Cheers, Chris.


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Well, I've been up and had a nose and can definately say that the girders did not support a track.

I have no idea what the triangular building is for and it was far too high to climb, so that will need some contacting of Railtrack or whoever.

Will upload pictures soon smile


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Thanks for that, Joe. Look forward to the pics. I'm making some progress on the matter of the triangular bit.


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Tried the easy approach at first - ground level.

Saw this, might have previously been a tunnel underneath?

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Tried looking all around the station and the bridge and couldn't find any access behind the fences.

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So I walked past and had a look at the triangular building

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I noticed the blocked up entrance/exit had writing above it but couldn't make it out

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After giving up on the easy way, I went around to the Rock Retail and tried to get access from there, walking along the bridges to the station.

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Lots of scrap metal up there think

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Finally got to the station

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Spotted this - any ideas??

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great pics joe, what height was the broken bracket type thingy? could it have held an old semaphore signal?


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