fookin hell! the dale- only went there once or twice. Dunno why but i was scared of it? rumour? reputation? i was only a baby- hypothetically speaking rather than literal.
One of my old friends met her hubby there, they loved it.....then they emigrated to Melbourne, Oz in the 80's. She couldnt believe it when I told her it had gone! She suspects the council arson department... so do I
The landlord did loads for charity 80's & 90's. I saw Benrard Manning there twice. He know the landlord and worked for free, all the ticket money went to charity.
Actually, it was not on the same side of the Bird, it was right next to the Library, we ran it for 10 years, we came from Manchester and thought we were going to hate it, we had the best time of our lives and made great friends there.
On the same side as The Bird,going towards Wheatland Lane.
That must have been the next building along from the Bird. As I recall, there is not much between the Bird, as it is now, and the backs of the houses on Wheatland Lane. (?)
Right,let me post this again! Has anyone got any information on the 'Dale Inn' that was in Oakdale Rd.It was on the same side as 'The Bird in Hand',heading toward Wheatland Lane. The only conection to The Dale that was at 'Lloyds Corner',was the name!
That is why I am looking for any info'.I know that there is a large gap,but I think it was nearer the top of the road. I will email my friend in the USA who lived in that road to see what she can remember. Her brother was named Dale after the pub!
Im confused too! Bezzy, your recollection 'rings a bell' (my dad reminiscing-i think) yet, am confused by your location description? Are you saying the corner of wheatland lane/ oakdale road? What era we talking about? X
It was prob' pulled down in the 60's.I only have a vague recolation of it being in Oakdale Rd. On the left heading toward Wheatland Lane,there was a row of terraced houses.Opposite towards Wheatland Lane was the original Dale Inn. Jeez I feel old if nobody else can recall it!
Had many a good nite in the Dale....I THINK!!! lol Pity about the council BBQ, Tesco must be a good sponsor of our glorious council....just look at the Plough Inn in Moreton!!!!!
It was prob' pulled down in the 60's.I only have a vague recolation of it being in Oakdale Rd. On the left heading toward Wheatland Lane,there was a row of terraced houses.Opposite towards Wheatland Lane was the original Dale Inn. Jeez I feel old if nobody else can recall it!
It was prob' pulled down in the 60's.I only have a vague recolation of it being in Oakdale Rd. On the left heading toward Wheatland Lane,there was a row of terraced houses.Opposite towards Wheatland Lane was the original Dale Inn. Jeez I feel old if nobody else can recall it!
O.K. So opposite the Bird. NEXT to the bird +- was a chippy that served you through a hatch in the door, which was kind of in the vestibule of a house. Further away from Wheatland Lane was the old wash house. On the other side from the bird was houses, and a few shops, and, again, further away from Wheatland Lane, was Johnny Lodges off licence. But was that one time a pub? As I recall it it could well have been. All the drinks were behind a very pub looking "Bar" (counter), and you had to know what you wanted, and old Johnny Lodge (his real name?) would go to the back and get it for you. (Looked a bit like a Yates's wine lodge).
But I was only 4 or 5 at the time (1964/5). I remember being able to stand under the "packing table) which ran under the front windows.
We lived in Clarence Road at the time, and it was through the wide entry from there. Crossed Clarence and went through to York Road).
I DO remember that the parents talk was about TWO pubs in that area, one being the Bird. So the other may well have been the Dale.
I was about 5 or 6 when the area was knocked down leaving only the Bird like a single tooth left in a desert of rubble.
The Chippy, Johnny Lodges, the Wash house, a load of houses,(and the Dale?) all gone.
It was prob' pulled down in the 60's.I only have a vague recolation of it being in Oakdale Rd. On the left heading toward Wheatland Lane,there was a row of terraced houses.Opposite towards Wheatland Lane was the original Dale Inn. Jeez I feel old if nobody else can recall it!
I remember the Dale Inn & the washhouse around the corner!
They used to have a cracking football team in the '60s, as did The Bird in Hand. Full of what we used to call 'jug hunters' though.
Is that beer-jugs or milk-jugs
It was a term used to describe lads who were good players and moved from team to team, which ever was successful at that time, so that they could win cups and medals. I wasn't amongst them
The dale pub in oakdale road was a gable end with an entry "jigger" behind it leading through to milton road and also came out at the other end just past the "bird in hand" pub which WAS on the same side of the road as the Dale. The chippie was "Mac's" chippie which didn't serve from a hatch it was a proper shop, the chippy that served "from a hatch" must have been the tiny one just past the wash house further down Oakdale road (near the boys club). My mum Mona used to work in the (old) Dale Inn which was a fabulous little pub which even had waitress service in its tiny lounge.
Oh,thankyou so much for that info'.I remember the chippy by the wash-house,don't remember the hatch though! It was small and painted blue.My auntie used to say the Germans bombed it in the war.This could have just been a story though.My nan had two shops over the road in Ashville.
the chippy that served "from a hatch" must have been the tiny one just past the wash house further down Oakdale road (near the boys club).
Could be. When I say a "hatch" It was like a stable door, where the top and bottom were on seperate hinges, and the bottom had a fold down "counter" when they were serving.
Like I say, I was only 4 or 5, so considering it was about 45 or 46 years ago, not a bad memory.
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT AS WELL....Next door to Johnny Lodges was a double fronted general shop which was run by a guy who wore a pork pie hat (I think?)....but he was a relative of Nigel Lythgoe the tv dancer who later did a similar job to Simon Cowell
My Dad worked with NL's Dad on the docks.In his day NL was a local celeb'!
Originally Posted by torryman
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT AS WELL....Next door to Johnny Lodges was a double fronted general shop which was run by a guy who wore a pork pie hat (I think?)....but he was a relative of Nigel Lythgoe the tv dancer who later did a similar job to Simon Cowell
the chippy that served "from a hatch" must have been the tiny one just past the wash house further down Oakdale road (near the boys club).
Could be. When I say a "hatch" It was like a stable door, where the top and bottom were on seperate hinges, and the bottom had a fold down "counter" when they were serving.
Like I say, I was only 4 or 5, so considering it was about 45 or 46 years ago, not a bad memory.
I think this was the year of the Queen's Coronation going by the pics in the shop window.
Originally Posted by Bezzymate
Oh,thankyou so much for that info'.I remember the chippy by the wash-house,don't remember the hatch though! It was small and painted blue.My auntie used to say the Germans bombed it in the war.This could have just been a story though.My nan had two shops over the road in Ashville.
It deffinately LOOKS like a pub. the "Strong" on the window I will guess is followed by "ales". And I can, I think, JUST make out "Grants" on the right end of the plinth over the window. Did they HAVE off licences outside of pubs then?
I can remember it from about 59' or 60' and it was only an off licence then....and it had a very tall counter which made Johnny tower over you. It was laid out like a pub but it had no furniture...I'd love to know if it had ever been a pub
I remember it like that too! I seem to recall as you looked at the counter{that was like a bar} to the right was a door that lead into a bar.It was very small,more of a snug.
Originally Posted by torryman
I can remember it from about 59' or 60' and it was only an off licence then....and it had a very tall counter which made Johnny tower over you. It was laid out like a pub but it had no furniture...I'd love to know if it had ever been a pub
If John Smiths is anything like Whitbread, the signs go into storage in a kind of company "museum". The only exception I know of was the Angel in Birkenhead, and Cerberus MC (Bike club) got that.
i used to live right behind the old dale in milton rd if you can remember in the middle of the building there was a door which was called "the out-door" kids would go in for crisps and pop i also remember "adams brothers" the bike shop run by two sisters and at the bottom of milton rd you had "mrs braithwaites" sweet shop there was also a "coffin makers" and at the bottom of shakespeare "the pipe cleaners" i remember the wash house and "johnny lodgers" which was a pub many a moon ago there was also a bookies over the road from "the bird" called ashmans
i used to live right behind the old dale in milton rd if you can remember in the middle of the building there was a door which was called "the out-door" kids would go in for crisps and pop i also remember "adams brothers" the bike shop run by two sisters and at the bottom of milton rd you had "mrs braithwaites" sweet shop there was also a "coffin makers" and at the bottom of shakespeare "the pipe cleaners" i remember the wash house and "johnny lodgers" which was a pub many a moon ago there was also a bookies over the road from "the bird" called ashmans
Hi Wilson. Can I ask around what decade this would be?
yes bezzy we moved from milton rd about 1972-73 having lived there since i was born in 1962. milton shakespeare and byrom were quickly demolished. the earlier poster was right about the "chippy" next to the bird was called "macs" i seem to remember the houses between the old dale and the bird were knocked down in the late sixties and the waste ground at the bottom of milton rd was called "the stables"
I know that The Dale often hosted local bands, but my spouse (who lived locally at the time) insists that the Sex Pistols once played there. Now, I would ordinarily dismiss this as utter nonsense or possibly even a wind-up, but it's a matter of record that a Pistols date in Birkenhead was advertised and then cancelled. Did they play a low-key gig elsewhere in the area?
The Sex Pistols played at Eric's Club in Liverpool and Mr Digby's in Birkenhead during 1976. I think all the 1977 gigs in Merseyside were cancelled (Liverpool Stadium and The Hamilton Club, Birkenhead) but I'm sure they played at Eric's at least twice.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
The landlord did loads for charity 80's & 90's. I saw Benrard Manning there twice. He know the landlord and worked for free, all the ticket money went to charity.
they lived in oakdale rd then if my memory is right they moved back to the states before we moved out.
Hi, after the Dennis's moved from Oakdale they went to Demesne St for a few Years. Debbie married John Parry, he was my next door neighbour. I also keep in contact with the two of them.
they lived in oakdale rd then if my memory is right they moved back to the states before we moved out.
Hi, after the Dennis's moved from Oakdale they went to Demesne St for a few Years. Debbie married John Parry, he was my next door neighbour. I also keep in contact with the two of them.
John still comes over to vist his family, but shame that Debbie wont fly, I would love to see her again.
they lived in oakdale rd then if my memory is right they moved back to the states before we moved out.
Hi, after the Dennis's moved from Oakdale they went to Demesne St for a few Years. Debbie married John Parry, he was my next door neighbour. I also keep in contact with the two of them.
John still comes over to vist his family, but shame that Debbie wont fly, I would love to see her again.
Yes, I last seen John about 5 Years ago in the shepherds Rest pub, He was with his cousin Clod.
[quote=wilson]they lived in oakdale rd then if my memory is right they moved back to the states before we moved out.
Hi, after the Dennis's moved from Oakdale they went to Demesne St for a few Years. Debbie married John Parry, he was my next door neighbour. I also keep in contact with the two of them.
John still comes over to vist his family, but shame that Debbie wont fly, I would love to see her again.
Yes, I last seen John about 5 Years ago in the shepherds Rest pub, He was with his cousin Clod. [/quote]Sure he has been over this year to see his Mum.
You went down Oakdale from Wheatland Lane and the first pub was The Dale Inn also known as 'Charlie Fairs's' after a long dead landlord. Then there was some houses and then the Bird In Hand. The new 'Dale' was going to be called The Carousel and part of the lounge was shaped like a carousel from the outside anyway. Locals petitioned the brewery John Smith's and the name was changed to The Dale. Hope this clears it up. The old library was built as a hotel but never opened as a local church 'known as the 'marble' or 'white' church petitioned against it and it was not granted a licence. As a child 50 years ago I remember being in the children's library and the librarians sat behind the 'bar'! When the library closed and moved to it's new site it occupied the same site where the marble church had stood which was knocked down to make way for the library. Revenge is sweet.
I heard that story too but sadly I think it was just an urban myth to make people feel better. I remember seeing it have demolished. It was a beautiful building like many others in Wallasey and Wirral it fell victim to the mindless vandals in the planning department who have done more damage to Wirral than all the hoodies and yobs combined int he last 60 years. Even the Luftwaffe failed to destroy so many nice buildings.
Yes the Dale was on the site of the prefabs infact part of the the prefabs hedging survived for a while (maybe still does). The library actually is on the site of the white church. The prefabs were only supposed to be around for ten years but were still in good condition when they were pulled down.
Iremember "The Old Dale Inn " my mum an dad were good friends with the people that ran it who moved here from Barnsley I used to stay there sometimes . There was also a chippy in that little Road opp The Bird .