I remember Mrs. Povall, she used to take our bikes over to her shop while we played in the "Anderson" shelter on the bombed site opposite her & used to tell us off when we went to retrieve them !!! Strongs dairy was next door to the bombed site if I remenber correctly.
5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
[quote=Snodvan] This still does not answer my query - where is the Farmers Arms in the pic originally posted by Liberator? The Phoenix was BEFORE the pub and on the other side of the pub was the bike shop. Similarly, the Cosmo should have been before the pub with the bike shop on the other side. However, despite using a magnifier I cannot see any sign of the pub and maybe there is a "space" between the Cosmo and the bike shop?? When did they build the Farmers Arms?
The simple answer to this one is that the first building in the photo past the Cosmo, the one with the advertising hoardings on the side, IS the original Farmers Arms - thats why the name of Spragg's Wallasey Vale Brewery is painted on the gable end. Spragg's was taken over by Higson's in 1919, & it was they who had the Farmers rebuilt in 1923-4. The new building was set further back from the road, the frontage lining up with that of the cinema, and the area in front of it was handed over to Wallasey Corporation to allow that section of the road to be widened.
The simple answer to this one is that the first building in the photo past the Cosmo, the one with the advertising hoardings on the side, IS the original Farmers Arms - thats why the name of Spragg's Wallasey Vale Brewery is painted on the gable end. Spragg's was taken over by Higson's in 1919, & it was they who had the Farmers rebuilt in 1923-4. The new building was set further back from the road, the frontage lining up with that of the cinema, and the area in front of it was handed over to Wallasey Corporation to allow that section of the road to be widened.
That would actually make sense. The tram line seems to travel along Harrison Drive and is making its curve into Sandy Lane. I have always put the cinemas to the left of the Farmers as the picture confuses the issue. So many people have told me that the sheltered hosing to the right of the Farmers is where the Phoenix once stood.
Really interesting, can remember my Auntie mentioning many of those names, thanks for them
Even I remember hearing many of the names being mentioned. When I gave the list to mum yesterday she sat there and more or less went through it telling stories / anecdotes about the people concerned. She has lived in the Village for 92 years and at the date of the list (1938) she would be just 20 so hardly surprising.
There was no way I could write down all she said about people of course - but I have persuaded her (I think!) to go through the list again and in a note book to jot down things she remembers about people. Of course, SOME of the things she remembers the folk concerned would probably rather not hear
Snod
5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
That would be great if you could. It would be fascinating for me as I too have lived in the Village for some years, off Grove Road and have seen things change but I still love the place. My mum used to take me to the Pheonix! The last film though I saw there was Who dares Wins, I was about 17
Just to clarify matters, here's the same area as shown on the OS maps of 1909, 1936 & 1980. As you can see, the cinema was built on the vacant plot immediately to the north of the original Farmers. The Cosmo Garage & the builders' yard were to the south of the Farmers - on the 1936 map you can see what appears to be a long row of lock-up garages belonging to the Cosmo Garage directly behind the pub. The fourth pic shows the modification to the building line when the Farmers was rebuilt in the mid-20s.
Very interesting to see the place opposite the Pres. Church, marked as hall / club. We used to go in there after a movie at the Phoenix & listen to a short bible reading & were then given sweeties for correctly answering questions on the reading.
A company I used to work for rented one of the lock up garages behind what was then the Esso station, managed by Eric Grindrod of Leasowe Rd. We stored drums of resin there for use in cavity wall insulation. The company was "Thermalon" & as I was there nearly every day some may have seen my yellow J2 van.
