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Come on Granny. This is just down the road from you. Get the Bathchair fired up, wizz round the field (in 4 wheel drive of course) and report back pronto !!

Got to agree with Chris. From the ariel etcho-tron-o-graph engraving, it DOES look like a fenced enclosure.

Had a problem firing the Bathchair up, but took off along the main road. Always went down the lanes behind, when dog was still alive and kicking. Not really visible from the lanes but from the main road, the archealogical dig that could have been, turns out to be ............yes, a fence! One way of keeping you all amused anyway.
Chris, there is also a Thingwall in Liverpool. Often wondered if they had a way of communicating across the lands with those medieval type torches they planted in the ground (can't think what they are called) We can see Liverpool from here and maybe in those days they could see the Isle of Man from the raised areas of the mainland. Loads of history in Thingwall with regard to the vikings. It's believed they used to make their way up along the lanes from Bromborough through Storeton to Thingwall. Maybe you know all this anyway.
Sorry for misleading excitement.

Thanks for taking a look Granny.

Hi, granny; never heard of a Thingwall in Liverpool. Are you sure you're not thinking of Childwall?

HiChris,
Definitely Thingwall, nr. Knotty Ash. Thingwall Hall is there still. You can pick it up on Google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thingwall_Hall
Built on a hill. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/36677

Prof. Stephen Harding (the Viking expert) said there is one in the Shetlands too.

As an added extra, on a clear day, the Pennines can be seen from the bedroom window. That must be 120 miles away at least.

And this one Chris:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/

Interesting.

Thanks for that, Granny. I wonder how many others there may be, and if they were all meeting places.
I have to disagree about the distance of the Pennines, however. Pendle hill, which isn't even the nearest point, is only about 60 miles from Liverpool. At the Southern end, Edale is about the same distance.

You are probably right Chris with regard distance. Just a wild quess on my part. I thought they were about 80/90 miles from Liverpool, but that's probably not as the crow flies. Plus a few more from this side of the river. Anyway, Not sure why I raised that point now, I think it may have been to do with visible distance for sending messages by medieval type torches. Oh Lord, what rubbish and that was without a drink!. Don't say anything.
Having thought about it last night, that would be a load of buncum anyway, they probably wouldn't have been able to see over the top of the trees.
Would I be correct in thinking (and it is only a thought) that they would have followed the path of the river from Bromborough until they came to Thingwall. The stream (not sure whih one at moment) flows through the woods opposite Cross Hill. There is also a stream crossing under Barnston Road, which goes behind the Basset Hound over the fields behind towards Landican and/or Storeton. The thing(not meant as a pun) is that this area has had very little deveolpement and the original flow of the streams or rivers must surely continue much as they where.

As far as I know, all the watercourses in that area feed Prenton Brook which flows through the North Cheshire Trading Estate near junction 3 of the M53, then joins the Fender. As for the streams near Bromborough, the Dibbin and tributaries, they're on the other side of Storeton ridge and I don't think there would be any water connection between Bromborough and Thingwall.
The book Waterside Wirral ISBN 1 872568 44 0 is useful and only £5.

One 'Thing' & another....

http://www.thingproject.eu/node

International Thing Project.

(Sorry if this is diverting from the original Fender query).

Thanks for the link, Geekus.

I took this pic of that part of the stream last yearOn the south side of the motorway in between Landican and Storeton.

Noticed on this map and wondered if some of these brooks still existed.
The map was done in the 1990s and was wondering where he got his info from
click

The Ayne
The Carr
Caldy Brook
the Arrowe brook meeting the Ayne (Birket?)
+ others

Most, if not all, the brooks on the map still exist, although some have been re-named. The best reference I know is "Waterside Wirral" ISBN 1 872568 44 0 Only £4.99.
From £0.01 + £2.80 delivery on Amazon.

Derek, i am curious about the 'shields' on the map above, do you know what they represent.... < schools >