The Green man may bare some resembelance, but who in their right mind would write 49 verses of The Gest Of Robin Hood, about a man who didn't exist?
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
That's only because you don't believe! If you believe, you can make anything work and find lots of answers......didn't you know that? You can even twitch your nose like Samantha in Bewitched.
Of course the Faerie Queen wasn't a real person, she was a Faerie!
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
See what you make of this. Just a few bits of a very much bigger picture.
William Wallace's decent was from Richard of Wormleighton (le Waleys) whose father came from Wales (Waleis) He was sent to France at the end of the 13th century, but returned at some point and no one knows when. There were approx. three years at least when he was classed as missing. Sir Stephen Le Waley's of Burghwallis is thought to have written 'The Gest of Robin Hood' The Le Waley's family of Boroughwallis owned lands to include Skellow and Barnsdale. Robin Hood's Well is located in Barnsdale which was on the border of Nottingham. Little John's Well is located in Barnsdale both near to Skellow. William Wallace's nieee was married to a man by the name of Little at the end of the 13th Century. William Wallace's wife ( gilfriend) was Marion Braidfoot. Sir Richard le Waley's married Eleanor le Brus,parents of Stephen, she was wife of the late Le Brus. Can you see all the connections? Can I leave the rest to another day? Just a few points to ponder there.
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Thanks Geekus. Not such a daft idea then?? It's interesting to find out, that although there are some who believe Robin's real name was William Wallace, everyone seems to come up with different explanations and more theories. Those who try to disprove don't come up with much of an alternative other than myth. I get a bit What I have found, apart from noting that Stephen le Waleys was thought to have written 'The Gest of Robin Hood', has been from my own efforts, with links to the subject. Therfore these have to be more, although small, valid points towards the William Wallace possibility. I am certain that William Wallace and Le Waleys of Burghwallis, were related more closely, than has yet been found.
Here is little more!
In the Twelfth and Thirteenth centuries there appears to have been quite an immigration from Yorkshire into Dumfriesshire, Scotland, the Bruces and Balloils being particularly notable. The Littles seemed to have joined in this hegira, settling exactly on the border between Scotland and England in Dumfriesshire on what became known as the disputed ground. By the year 1300 Edward Little married a niece of Sir William Wallace and was a Scotch patriot. By 1398 A. D. Nicol Little was an intermediary, adjusting difficulties between the Scotch and the English on the border. However, the constant border forays back and forth all harried the debated ground occupied by the Littles and in the Fifteenth and Sixteenth centuries they were forced to retaliation..
Then there is another website link below, which with some of the same information, gives Robin Hood as someone else. you will have to read it as it's quite a lot to take in.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Spartacus (Greek: Σπάρτακος, Spártakos; Latin: Spartacus[1]) (c. 109–71 BCE) was a famous leader of the slaves in the Third Servile War, a major slave uprising against the Roman Republic. Little is known about Spartacus beyond the events of the war, and surviving historical accounts are sometimes contradictory and may not always be reliable. Nevertheless, all sources agree that he was a former gladiator and an accomplished military leader.
Spartacus' struggle, often interpreted as an example of oppressed people fighting for their freedom against a slave-owning oligarchy, has found new meaning since the 19th century.[2] The story of Spartacus has also proven inspirational to many modern authors of literature, history, political commentary, film, and television. Origins
Balkan tribes, including the Maedi The ancient sources agree that Spartacus was a Thracian. Plutarch describes him as "a Thracian of Nomadic stock".[3] Appian says he was "a Thracian by birth, who had once served as a soldier with the Romans, but had since been a prisoner and sold for a Gladiator".[4] Florus (2.8.8) described him as one "who from Thracian mercenary, had become a Roman soldier, of a soldier a deserter and robber, and afterward, from consideration of his strength, a gladiator".[5] Some authors refer to the Thracian tribe of the Maedi,[6][7][8] which in historic times occupied the area on the southwestern fringes of Thrace (present day south-western Bulgaria).[9][10] Plutarch also writes that Spartacus' wife, a prophetess of the Maedi tribe, was enslaved with him.
The name Spartacus is otherwise attested in the Black Sea region: kings of the Thracian dynasty of the Cimmerian Bosporus[11] and Pontus[12] are known to have borne it, and a Thracian "Sparta" "Spardacus"[13] or "Sparadokos",[14] father of Seuthes I of the Odrysae, is also known.
[edit] Enslavement and escape
The Roman Republic at 100 BCE According to the differing sources and their interpretation, Spartacus either was an auxiliary from the Roman legions later condemned to slavery, or a captive taken by the legions.[15] Spartacus was trained at the gladiatorial school (ludus) near Capua belonging to Lentulus Batiatus. In 73 BCE, Spartacus was among a group of gladiators plotting an escape. The plot was betrayed but about 70[16] men seized kitchen implements, fought their way free from the school, and seized several wagons of gladiatorial weapons and armor.[17] The escaped slaves defeated a small force sent after them, plundered the region surrounding Capua, recruited many other slaves into their ranks, and eventually retired to a more defensible position on Mount Vesuvius.[18][19]
Once free, the escaped gladiators chose Spartacus and two Gallic slaves—Crixus and Oenomaus—as their leaders. Although Roman authors assumed that the slaves were a homogeneous group with Spartacus as their leader, they may have projected their own hierarchical view of military leadership onto the spontaneous organization of the slaves, reducing other slave leaders to subordinate positions in their accounts. The positions of Crixus and Oenomaus—and later, Castus—cannot be clearly determined from the sources.
no such person the term robin hood was given to outlaws or settlers that lived on the land and payed no taxes on the land !!
also a term given to dick turpin types ,although i did read somewere that maid marion did actually exist though !!
Dick Turpin also existed........so why not Robin Hood? If there was no such person as Robin Hood, why mention Maid Marion? This is why we try to solve, where the original story of Robin Hood originated from!
Maid Marion.......There was a Marion who married William Wallace.!!!
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Well, I expected you to appear from somewhere out of the mist.
But we don't have to take things too seriously, now do we?
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Did I misunderstand the thread? I thought you were confused as to whether Robin Hood was a person or a myth. You do say if anyone has any ideas or suggestions they should post them. My suggestion is it's folklore - like Beowulf, which is what the history on the subject tells us. An idyllic personality born from tales and song. (or poetry in Beowulf's case).
