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Anyway I try my upmost hardest to get a job so that I don't have to rely on the tax payer

I put so much effort into what I do and all of my possessions are owned outright

I think the whole 'there are no jobs' is a load of BS

if I had to roll my sleeves up and shovel sh1t I would do it because I would rather feel like I have earnt my money rather than being given it for nothing

I get great pleasure at the end of the day after coming home to the house that I pay my mortgage on and eat the food that I paid for and wear the clothes that I have earnt.
It feels great to actually earn my money. But it feels better to spend it :-P

Ah, thats why we differ in viewpoint. A key desirability factor in my field (not Comping as my Profile suggests-lol) is Congruence.

I seem to recall that when the Tories got into power that Labour said these words.

"What you are aiming to do is make the public an us versus them society, you will make one set of the public despise the other for your own benefit"

I personally believe that the Tories are doing everything to benefit their own pockets and by hitting out and making the easy targets vulnerable it distracts from the facts that they are the only winners and whether you work or not we are all worse off. The are bullies on a massive scale and separating the working and non working is like picking out the "popular" kids in school who like sheep follow the bully.

I agree ⬆ The Daily Mail is the tories little wooden spoon too

Yes plenty of jobs
40 hrs minimum wage =£248

Less Tax and NI 30
Rent 100
C Tax 20
gas elec water 35
bus fares 25
food 40

Result £2 in debt/week

no car, no holiday, no TV, no drinking, no hobbies (walkings free), no more clothes, no more shoes, no life insurance, no buildings insurance

How many people have the luxury of doing a job they want to do?
You work to bring in a wage, simple as. If you like your job then that's a bonus.

Ilove my job.The only thing is since the pay cuts i find it hard to cope with bills etc.we all have to pay our way somehow its unfair depending on benefits.torries are trying to sort labours debt.

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I totally agree with dizdazdoz, everything they are doing is divisive, they won't have a mansion tax but will have a bedroom tax, a 1% increase in benefits is effectively a cut, while millionaires get a cut in tax, pensioners bus passes and heating alowances are under threat while the House of Lords is full of retirees claiming lots of expenses, a person who has worked all his/her life becomes a skiver if they have the misfortune to lose their job and of course anyone who is lucky enough to get a job has no employment rights for two years.

Shocking, Bennie.

I think everybody affected should come together and fight everything instead of fighting each other. It is just a waste of time and energy.

One Campaign Group that I am in is trying to achieve that objective

Is Democracy in the west gradually slipping towards a Plutocracy (a state or society governed by the wealthy)

Plutocrats are often characterized as ignoring their social responsibilities to the poor, using their power to serve their own purposes and thereby increasing poverty and nurturing
class conflict, and corrupting their societies with greed and hedonism.


Quite often, wealthy individuals either finance their own political campaigns or leverage their affiliations with other wealthy persons and organizations to do so on their behalf. In
the United States, currently, 250 members of Congress both Democratic and Republican are millionaires, with 57 belonging to the top 1% of American wealthy,


It is the £60million Cabinet. David Cameron’s coalition Government may have adopted ‘fairness’ as one of its defining slogans, but his team of Ministers has been drawn almost
exclusively from the ranks of the financial elite – leading to accusations that politics is once again becoming the preserve of the wealthy.
Of the 29 Ministers entitled to attend Cabinet meetings, 23 have assets and investments estimated to be worth more than £1million.


one modern, perhaps unique, formal example of a plutocracy is the City of London.[6] The City (not the whole of modern London but the area of the ancient city, which now mainly
comprises the financial district) has a unique electoral system. More than two-thirds of its voters are not residents, but rather representatives of businesses and other bodies that occupy premises in the City, with votes distributed according to their number of employees.
The principal justification for the non-resident vote is that about 450,000 non-residents constitute the city's day-time population and use most of its services, far outnumbering the
City's 9,000 residents

Mandelson - "We (Labour) are intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich"

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I agree with some of the comments on here out not all. There are a lot of people who have made a good living while on benefits over the years not through the benefit Itself but working on the side.
I have always found work myself and have never had a job from the unemployment office in my life I have always got of my arse and found work myself.

Im now 63 years of age and have been unemployed for 3 years getting Pension Credits of £72 a week if anyone can live on that they are a miracle worker.

By the way for the benefit of the people on here making comments about benefit scroungers this is a benefit I'm entitled to as I have paid tax and insurance all my life into the British economy,Its not something I get for free a payment for having done nothing all my working life I have paid in and now Its payback time to me getting back money I have contributed over my working life.

One other thing regarding getting a job...I was told by Upton Job Centre when I first registered for Job Seekers Allowance that I was to old at 60 to claim Job seekers allowance and would have to go on Pension Credits something I had never heard of before. When I challenged this person saying I was to old to work they retracted the ststement saying they didn't mean it the way it sounded.

I ended up on Pension Credits which Im still on today. I class myslf as unemployed not retired there for Im there eyes Im to old to work but to young to get a pension, the figures suggest that there is around 3.5 million people aged between 60 to 65 who are claiming pension credits but not on the unemployment register.

In my eyes they should be grouped together as unemployed as I mentioned Im constantly looking for work in the construction industry which is what I do and not sitting on my arse doing sweet FA.

I have written to Ester McVey about these figure and awaiting a reply back from her.

Lets see what encuse this coalition government come back with.

Good point about the pension credits. One less person "Unemployed" looks good on the figures.

3.5 million on pension credit is ageist and they should be on the unemployed figures. That puts a lot of things into their proper context.