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Dear oh dear Frank you really are clutching at straws, pray tell me how many Tory MPs have been jailed for perjury, dishonesty I know thieving is rife amongst all MPs but the tories hold the record but apart from that they are that thick skinned they can see no wrong in what they have done and on release return to the trough or the upper trough to continue as a given right I see one ex tory MP trying to get back on the gravy train by applying to UKIP and the arrogance of Cameron in his recent TV interview about lobbying, these people don't run the country for the populace they run it as their own PLC for what they can get out of it, they are the worst kind of thieves, they don't thieve to eat or feed their families they thieve because they are greedy much wants more people much is never enough.

I didn't imply that all Labour MPs are sqeeky clean Frank, to be blunt there are very few MP's of any party that have not had their hand in the till,my point was as you stated yourself that most the Tories are rich and don't need to thieve, with them it is pure greed again there are a very very few that deserve the title RT honourable,com'on be honest if you had a good income would you claim for a mars bar on expenses? but you have been critical of the trade unions which is your right, but you must accept that the tories are funded by big business yet they turn around and accuse the labour party of being in the unions pocket,I do agree that there should be a capped amount for political parties but Dave blanched at this,that says a lot.

Indeed - ying and yang in it's purest form - you break it we fix it to our 'ideals' then that doesn't work so it's over to the other lot to 'fix' their way - pretty boring and predicatable - which is why this country is going nowhere..

Well basically Frank if we buy goods or services from these companies we contribute indirectly how do we know the odd penny here and their added on is not going to be used as slush money? as to share holders voting I have never seen any reference to political levis nor to inflated pay offs for disgraced company managers, as to your comment I have seen a survey "somewhere" it is a bit vague and not definable we can all point to misdemeanours by the various parties but the nasty tories are way ahead in their poor treatment of the majority of people in this country hence their time in parliament is beset with demonstrations culminating in the heavy use of the police or army if these people can defraud the inland revenue then they have the means to move money around which is not accounted for and we would be naïve to believe otherwise, at least the labour leadership is willing to do something about it but Daves knuckles went white holding on to the debating table when it was suggested that political contributions be capped to all parties

I would have expected better from you Frank than a dismissive all propaganda, you have swallowed the Tory Lie about unemployed milking the system dry now THAT is pure propaganda and there is legitimate evidence to prove it, a typical ploy to turn attention away from the vicious attacks this unelected government are making on the people of this country to make a scapegoat of a section of society, just like the Nazis did to the Jews, blame all the ills on someone else the unemployed, immigrants the Labour party anyone bar themselves or their non policies, I hoped never again to see the odious face of conservatism holding power, but alas they only way they could get it was by default, look around the world right wing governments are usually kept in power by dictators and the force of arms

Spot on Casper, and give it time, but tories will make anyone on a benefit wear something to identify themselves, it wont be as obvious as the nazis did, but it will come, and they are doing a lovley job of turning people against each other, Remember your only one accident/ redundancy/illness away from being in their clutches and i bet people would change their tune then !

Frank, looks like you're putting the 'cat amongst the paupers' by being here.

Keep it up.

Pablo is that what you really think? or are you a troll With nothing to add of your own just wanting to stir things up? we could be on the verge of losing the NHS to privatisation to line the pockets of shareholders and your solution is to make crass remarks, there are no so blind as those that don't wish to see, I hope your never in need of a helping hand or a kind word mate.

Just a reminder of the original post Waste of time, all this bickering.

I won't be as no matter what happens in my life I'll endeavour to make sure me and mine are looked after through hard graft.

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Happy days for you Mr B.
Bollox to the rest of society then, yeah?

So with any luck the steel band will be loud enough to drown out the first two speakers.

Lol. Turn up and find out....It's Open Mic-would you like to do a turn?

Your post Kitty, is quite clearly as accurate as we will get on here. The 'copy and paste' propoganda on the first page, is clearly propoganda of gross proportions. Facts can be churned out from every direction, which actually doesn't improve or change anything.
However, having said that, I do believe that life for many in this country has now become intolerable. I don't believe that a 'general strike' should be encouraged, as that is the way certain groups would love to make an impact and it will do nothing to help, it would no doubt make things worse.
How can anyone without employment, now have the ability to wait and see what will happen. Frustrations are rising and at no time recently, I can recall, has anyone of our political parties joined forces in making any meaningful words of empathy towards the all those who are struggling to pay their way at the moment.It becomes a political , point scoring spat at Question Time .Most people would be happier with someone who actually understands the way they feel but that would show 'weakness' from political figures.Not only that, if they haven't suffered the same, they cannot comprehend.
What denotes a 'depression'. I'm not sure whether we are in one or not. That word has been struck off recently.
Those in private rented could end up being so far behind in their rents that they either get evicted or spend the next so many years trying to pay the debt back. This will all culminate in bad health,particularly depresion.
I can't blame people for taking to the street now, Parlaiment needs to wake up when they return from their summer holidays, and realise that something major has to be done by bringing industry back into this country and not selling off what we are hanging onto..
The unfortunate thing is that people in this county winge too soon about things. When it really gets bad, nobody is listening anymore.

Well Frank its a world wide problem Detroit in the USA is virtually bankrupt it was probably the Labour party and the unemployed that did That Spain France and Greece ,lets have a good scapegoat to blame all the ills on, lets forget about insider trading and tax evasion it doesn't happen its all propaganda put about by the trade unions, Geoge Osbourne is doing a wonderful job borrowing money the economy is stagnant but lets dwell on the Olympics and the Royal Birth wonderful news for GB plc the boys made a few bob there kerching,did'nt we do well, perhaps if all the political parties came together in a coalition instead of the blame game and agreed policies to defeat the common enemy of austerity and we might get somewhere, and the demonstrations across the UK were,nt orchestrated by the Trade unions Frank as you well know,and to finish the Tories weren't elected by a majority Frank if they hadn't jumped into bed with the also ran party there would have been a hung parliament.