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Sounds like he wants everything handed free on a plate.Thanks for this link mate.
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In 10 years time will it be remembered as the adjustment of housing benefit size limit rules',or 'under-occupancy' or 'under-occupancy rules' or as the bedroom tax.
Most folks of an age can recall the "Poll Tax" but not the official
"community charge"
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Having had a read through all the posts was wondering how everyone is getting on
are there any reports of people getting evicted for non payment?
Or is everyone just paying it?
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yes i know its not a tax as such
anyone not paid their full rent then?
The more people who refuse to pay the better...just like the poll tax years ago!
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The lack of 1 & 2 bedroom houses/flats on the wirral gives these families little choice. If you can't afford the tax, then on the streets you go? Doesn't sound fair to me!
By the way, I do pay my share of tax each month & for what it's worth, I'd rather it was used to house less fortunate people instead of going on bailing out greedy bankers and paying for missiles in illegal wars.
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By the way, I do pay my share of tax each month & for what it's worth, I'd rather it was used to house less fortunate people instead of going on bailing out greedy bankers and paying for missiles in illegal wars.
*income tax*
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My disabled mate is going to be getting stung for 2 rooms at roughly £20 per week No he isn't, the adjustment of housing benefit (No such thing as bedroom tax) doesn't affect those on disability benefit. This information is WRONG. Two thirds of those affected are disabled. Out of the other third, 90% of those affected are in some paid employment and are entitled to partial/ full Housing Benefit due to the fact that their wages are not enough for them to afford full rent.
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This information is WRONG. Two thirds of those affected are disabled.
Out of the other third, 90% of those affected are in some paid employment and are entitled to partial/ full Housing Benefit due to the fact that their wages are not enough for them to afford full rent.
What about those in paid low pay employment, who don't get partial or full housing benefit but have to find the FULL amount to pay their mortgage.
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Don't know Sue.  Irrelevant to a Bedroom Tax thread though, I would have thought! Unless you are interested in joining the fight against Social Injustice- all of the injustices against working class people??
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The lack of 1 & 2 bedroom houses/flats on the wirral gives these families little choice. If you can't afford the tax, then on the streets you go? Doesn't sound fair to me!
By the way, I do pay my share of tax each month & for what it's worth, I'd rather it was used to house less fortunate people instead of going on bailing out greedy bankers and paying for missiles in illegal wars. Well then you tell the chancellor that you would like to pay some more income tax, as much as is required to stop anybody being removed from their homes due to their failure to pay their rent due to government policies. Also be sure to tell him "You see all these people have to have money for mobile phones and contracts, large TV sets with Sky installed and pet food for the mandatory dog. After beer and fags have been allowed for, there is very little left with which to pay their rent." When you have paid for all of them perhaps you will feel a lot better. Why not pay your rent first, food second and then see what is left over for the beer, fags, pet food, TV and a mobile phone. That seems to me to be the way priorities ought to be. Having worked all my life that's the way I dealt with matters except that I swapped rent for mortgage and earned my money. Never a claim for benefits all my life. Benefits are not meant to be a substitute for earnings, just a stop gap between jobs. I would guess the only people who will lose out on this are the permanent benefit recipients. Oh how I agree, especially about the mobile phones with £20/month plus contracts and another £20 plus for Sky: what's wrong with Freesat or Freeview?
Carpe diem.
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Whats wrong with the workhouse or soup kitchens? I know lets start the cotton mills again get some nine or ten year olds to work the looms.
This is the seventh richest country in the world yet we have food banks and old people collecting firewood to burn to keep warm, last year more of the aged died with the cold than we have had casualties in the armed forces since we went into Afghanistan, how is that for an allegedly civilised country? we have a government that wants to deny us human rights, the only other countries that do that are run by dictators.
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As for the Labour Council setting aside £50,000 to help those who cannot pay their rent (Ha! but they pay for their mobiles and Sky TV as well as food for the mandatory pet dog!!!!) You diminish your argument by making ridiculous sweeping statements like that one.
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Well 19FRANK40 you seem to have got yourself in a twist over the bedroom tax which is a tax because people have no choice in regard to wether they'll pay it or not. It is a malicious tax brought in by an unelected government who have divided people into workers or shirkers, do you or any of your cohorts realise that there are in the region of 50 applicants for every job on Wirral? have you considered the fact that flat screen TVs were probably bought when people were in work? do you think that those unlucky enough to be out of work should do wothout any form of pleasure? in closing do you know any small children who could clean chimneys? Jam yesterday. Jam tomorrow but never jam today. (white queen Alice in Wonderland. regards. Bennie.
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