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Or you overestimated the attention that people give to your posts?! Just an observation. Good night.

Obviously I did, could that be because I don't know you and your "usual sarcastic self"?

With no vocal inflection, or facial expressions to note, it is a little hard to differentiate between someones tedious sarcasm, and genuine comments on an internet post.

So unless someone were to know you personally, or read your constant follow-up/backpedaling "I was being sarcastic really, DUR!" type posts, how would anyone know you were being sarcastic?

Perhaps add "/sarc" or similar to help us lesser people out, eh?

Perhaps read the entire topic and you would see I`m all for the circus. You could read it in instalments if its too long for you.

Zipper- behave yourself. No need for that. Just accept that people do not follow all of your posts.

Yea, think I`ll desist from posting.

Well that is your choice/ decision.No need though.

haven't you realised yet that 90% of people only read the first post before hitting reply

David Cameron has promised a Government commitment to ban wild animals such as lions, tigers and elephants in circuses will be made law - despite the fact that it was left out of the Queen's Speech.

In a letter to the charity Animal Defenders International (ADI), the Prime Minister has written: "Let me reassure you that it remains our position that the use of wild animal acts in travelling circuses is an outdated practice and that we will introduce a ban as soon as Parliamentary time allows."

Campaigners thought the policy had been dropped because there is so little time now to bring the legislation forward before the next election.

The ban has been supported by a long list of celebrity campaigners including Eddie Izzard, Ricky Gervais, Julian Clary, Moby, the actors Dominic West and Judi Dench, as well as Stanley Johnson, the former MEP and conservationist.

Animal Defenders International footage of a tiger being trained
Animal Defenders International has previously captured footage of cruelty
Mr Johnson told Sky News that it was intolerable to use the animals in circus acts and he was deeply disappointed that the policy was not included in June's list of bills announced by the Queen.

He is publishing the second volume of his memoirs next month and includes a picture of himself meeting the Prime Minister, alongside Peter Tatchell in April this year.

Its caption reads: "Prime Minister David Cameron promises us that the government will ban the use of wild animals in circuses. We are still waiting!"

A letter from David Cameron with a promise to Animal Defenders International
David Cameron's letter to Animal Defenders International
Mr Johnson's sons include Boris - the London mayor - and Jo - a Tory minister who runs Mr Cameron's policy unit.

Because there is so little Parliamentary time left, it could be possible that the Prime Minister backs a 10-minute rule bill being brought on September 3 by Labour backbencher Jim Fitzpatrick.

He says it is simply cruel for animals to be transported in small cages around the country and not given the space to roam freely.

The ADI charity has also uncovered cases of abuse in the past with elephants, camels and tigers being beaten with sticks.

David Cameron and Stanley Johnson
Stanley Johnson says David Cameron promised a ban on wild circus animals
Fleur Dawes from the charity said that even if that was not happening the circus life was in itself enough to cause suffering for animals.

There are only two circuses left in Britain that still have wild animals, including tigers, lions, zebras, snakes, reindeer, raccoons, foxes, camels and an Ankole.

One - called Peter Jolly's Circus - is operating in Buckley, near Chester, and has attracted protesters.

Both refused to give a statement to Sky News but have argued that they care for the welfare of the animals and are subject to regular checks by the Government - brought in after abuse was highlighted in other circuses that have since closed.

Ricky Gervais
Ricky Gervais is one of the famous faces supporting a ban
A spokeswoman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said: "We are committed to banning the use of wild animals in circuses and will introduce legislation as soon as parliamentary time allows.

"As we work towards a ban we have a strict system in place to ensure the welfare of all 23 circus animals in England.

"This includes announced and unannounced inspections, care plans for every animal, regular veterinary inspections and a retirement plan for each animal."

Ive been off this topic for a while and it makes me laugh how posters like "waddi" sing the praises of yet another useless and corrupt gov dept as defra
These are the numbnuts who when confronted with 90 per cent proof of slaughter house cruelty found out by animal aid just say " we dont agree but cant actually do anything" as filming was under trespass.
I recently watched house of commons review board made them squirm but not admit to 90 million quids worth of taxpayer waste of money on contracts never full filled
Defra are useless scumbags like all "regulators" under "cuts" in this weak weak country

I do a radical thing in life , i think beyond myself,would i want to be in a cage ? Poked by idiots to do tricks?
No
Just cause theyre animals we think they are lower mentally and its ok
"They like it " what utter tosh
Have you asked them???
The idiot human race will always justify what they want in their own interest
The whole reason they cant run free is due to us in the long run
We kill things for fun . We kill for meaningless religion . Humans are inherently evil not animals

One of the many hatful things about the uk is we have regulators that are in fact completely useless and money wasting
Their funding is often inherently biased
This is why its so easy to get away with crime .rip offs. corruption. Cruelty. Robbing taxpayers etc etc
We are weak

Its irony that people bleat on about this 'great'country
We cant even look after our old and vunerable young,what hope do animals have? Really.
In animal lover uk you can beat and burn pigs,throw cats in the river,keep dogs in terrible conditions,starve them,leave em in cars dying,cuts chickens heads off live,allow non stun halal, leave animals locked in empty houses to die,make them aggressive so they eat kids or elderly live ....etc etc etc
It goes to court nowt really happens....slap on the wrist at best
So dont say defra are powerful in any way at all
Circus us probably looked at maybe once a year if that

Look at the state of this letter. Blatently written by one of the circus people, imho.

http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/yoursa...cus_animals_happy_to_be_there/?cmpid=cmt

A passionate and compassionate post svenlock , and your observations are painfully correct . Its totally frustrating that improvements in both people and animal welfare move so slowly (when they are moving at all). Some people arent concerned about beings different from themselves , and most of the ones that are, get burned out by the seeming futility of emotional expenditure in trying to change what is a selfish cruel world.