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Good to hear the Liverpool development is going well anyway. Perhaps it will spill over to us on the Wirral.

Have you got a link to the £4.3 million being spent on lamp posts Fish5133? I'm interested in that for different reasons, but didn't see it in the Globe

A bit more research reveals Liverpool waters seems to be taking off.

I've found a link to the lamp-posts, by the way - here:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/wirral-council-set-abandon-plans-7885989

They make me darn well sick. They have a budget ,so they have to spend it on anything they can come up with.

The labour councillor knocked on my door the other day stating that he is going to try and get Barnston Road to 30mph. He had seen many vehicles going faster than the present 40mph as he'd walked long the road. My response was ,...if everyone is hissed off with the stop start continuous journey all the way from Birkenhead, as soon as drivers hit an open road they will go faster, but overall I have never really noticed much speeding happening so much (considering I drive along most days) and a reduced speed limit won't change anything. Asked why should he spend the money on that, he said they have the budget and that by the dips on Barnston road/ Gills Lane there are always accidents. 15 years and I've never seen one. Bearing in mind, that is 30mph anyway! Some young trumped up twerp with baggy trousers trying to get his name in lights. If they slow traffic down much more, we won't be going anywhere. Gridlock all the way. He lives somewhere completely different to this area and has no idea what is going on.

Touting for votes ? Don't come knocking on my door, talking tripe !!! Grrrrrr

...and that Arrowe Park and Woodchurch Road is worse than getting through the centre of Liverpool and out to Lark Lane area. We don't even live in a city FFS !

He should make sure the trees are pruned instead before they get diseased and have to be slaughtered.

You're right. If people are speeding beyond 40, they're not going to change their habits if the speed is reduced further.

There's a dual carriageway running into Warrington from the M56. They reduced it from NSL to 60, to 50 and now to 40. It doesn't deter the speeders.

As for Wirral Waters, its going to be a huge flop.

Peel are pushing a similar scheme in Manchester:

Warm reception for Trafford Waters plans say Peel bosses

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/warm-reception-trafford-waters-plans-8913510

Wirral suffers because of its location. How can you encourage any big business to come here when its difficult to get to? If you come via the M62 you have to battle through Liverpool and the tunnels bottlenecks.

And its a very long way round via the M56 and M53, both of which get clogged up or closed on a daily basis.

The only positive would be to have a nice view across to Liverpool, and that only benefits employees.

I wouldn't take Peel's dreams very seriously. They only build when they have tenants, and the glamorous pics and the computer generated fly-through videos are designed to enthuse potential clients rather than to be taken as what it will really be like.

I am quite sure that if a tenant could be found wanting to locate an oil refinery or a coal-yard on the site and prepared to pay for it, that is what would be built, and the gleaming crystalline skyscrapers, heliports, and water skiers and yachts would be instantly dumped!

I think Peel are going to get their come-uppance in the next few years, they own too much land and don't have any capital. Peel basically bully councils into doing things by promising loads of money to be spent (that they haven't got) but also say to the council if there are any problems with planning permission then we will take the money elsewhere.

They've done this time after time and the gullible councils fall for it. Unfortunately once a council starts along the trail with them, they are effectively locked in.

As soon as someone issues threats like that, the councils should run a mile, the councils should be ashamed of themselves for manipulating the planning system to make things easier for Peel.

Peel also use tax reduction techniques, using the Isle-of-man as a tax haven and using shares instead of money. What's even more annoying is that a lot of the projects are financed by public money.

I do wish people wouldn't mention Peel on here without prior warning. I like to have a spittoon or a vomit bowl handy when thinking of them !!

I am sometimes tempted to doubt your parentage !!

Wirral Water's first non-public-money company is progressing, the Contact Company's call centre for 400 jobs, I doubt if this is 400 full-time jobs but at least its a sizeable employer.

No sign of Chinese investment or companies, nor the automotive car parts industry.

Liverpool's deep water terminal is progressing, a picture from tonight.

Went over the bridges yesterday as i had an appointment in Birkenhead, and right next to this new College was a big truck and couple of guys working near the boarding, passed the second bridge, no idear what they were doing but as the tail back of traffic was building up, i thought was stupid person thought about blocking the road during rush hour, as for this new college i took one look at it and thought it looked like a warehouse, then on the other block of land to the left is an office block, why did this college get planing permission to build on the site its on now, the office block would have been better sited, and the college on the site of the office block, so who ever thought of this should be stood against a wall and shot, there is just going to be a no go area soon! or with a bit of luck a big piece of space rock might fall from the sky and knock the bloody lot down!

I think the college could have been built almost anywhere without making a lot of difference to it, so its primary concern is low rent. Peel is desperate for ANYONE to come and build there so were probably prepared to offer a very good deal.

As for the call centre, again it doesn't really matter where they are situated - many are in India. Again low cost is the most important factor.

Call centres are invariably located where there is a lot of cheap labour and Birkenhead probably beats Mumbai these days in this respect.

I don't think either say anything very optimistic about the future prospects of Wirral Waters!

Its hardly green or economical to the country for the college to knock down Birkenhead Tech, Withens Lane and Carlett Park then build three new colleges.

Refurbish don't rebuild!

The new college is for teaching students who want to work in the building trade.My nephew has done 2 weeks work experience there as he's doing quite well while at the college & they sent some of the students there during the Easter break.