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Originally Posted by venice
Im interested to know the figures you asked about, but to be honest, as regards this incident, I dont understand whats going on - admittedly I have no background knowledge of the system, but to me it seems on the surface, that a batch of welfare payments have been 'passed'and the people have all turned up to receive them .
The Local Welfare Assistance is there to support people- Working or not who are without food/ fuel, it replaced the old 'crisis loan' system. It seems that applicant LWA23888 'award' got sent to anybody on the system- regardless of whether they had actually applied or not....

As stated, some non applicants attended the invitation

What about the people who HAD made a genuine application? Recieving a notification that their application was successful, only to be dashed?? Cruel.

For those that can't be arsed reading the O.P link- this service is available to everybody- working/ non working

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I have said this many times, those that are fortunate enough to be in work and critise the unemployed ( this is the fault of the Tory government for demonising those who are out of work as spongers)dont realise that it could be them within weeks their lives could crash down around them, so to those that condemn just give a little thought before you point the finger.

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well said casper

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I agree with Casper and Madge

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Thanks Rude - Id presumed this was one of the several hardship benefits that the CH4 programme exposed were being witheld (via ignorance of their existence by many) , I just didnt know quite how the admin side worked here in Wirral . Obviously my charitable view of it being done in batches, was purely a shocking co ck -up. Had wondered if the programme made a big difference and suddenly all the CH4 watchers , started applying . The info you get will be interesting.

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The terrible truth is £60 buys very little today and people on low incomes have ongoing problems coping financially.Imagine managing on £74 a week and you need a new pair of shoes or fridge.
At this very moment in Wirral there are numerous people hungry and cold because they have been sanctioned or their benefits have not been sorted. This is true of working people and people unfortunate enough to be sick or unemployed.
It is verging on criminal to ask people all to attend at the same time and subject them to such humiliation.crawling for help which is their right to have.

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Very well put Rossie. A lot of people simply do not realise that the majority of people receiving help are actually in work. This is something that gets skipped over. Also when the government repeatedly say they have lifted people out of poverty by raising their tax limit, they fail to say that there were very shrewd calculations made which meant once the new levels were introduced it actually meant that a lot of poorer recipients lost out on tax credits etc meaning less money in their pocket not more. Poor income families could not get child care help yet its available to those with an income of £300,000 pa or more. So much for making work pay.

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Interesting piece on the news just now, talking to those on benifits , those working and pensioners.
Those on benifits said it wasn't worth them working as they wouldn't get as much....UNBELIEVEABLE.


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although i think everybody should work if they can i do believe that if your going to be worse off then in reality you have to stay on benefits!there is no way in the world this goverment should allow working people to be worse off!!

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Not many really want to be on benefits and have judgemental prigs accusing them of allsorts, but really why the hell would you take a job if it made you worse off !! The government need to make a minimum wage a realistic level so that people benefit from working,

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I would take a job for my own self respect. To have a reason to get up out of bed every morning.
To have structure to my day,week, year. So when I was off work for holidays I looked forward to it. Other wise every day would be the same.
I work because I want to not because I have too.
I do no jobs are hard to get these days, but I've been in employed work continually for the last 22 years in various jobs.
Starting with a few hours a week then to part time then full time as the kids got older.
I'm enjoying every minute being out there in the work place.
Even if it meant I had a bit less money I know I could hold my head up high and know I contribute to the economy with my taxes and be able to put into a pension.

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Originally Posted by pokerchamp
although i think everybody should work if they can i do believe that if your going to be worse off then in reality you have to stay on benefits!there is no way in the world this goverment should allow working people to be worse off!!
:withthat But it depends how long poeple tend to claim benefits.How many years would you say is acceptable to be on benefits and not being able to get a job?

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Originally Posted by SUExx
I would take a job for my own self respect. To have a reason to get up out of bed every morning.
To have structure to my day,week, year. So when I was off work for holidays I looked forward to it. Other wise every day would be the same.
I work because I want to not because I have too.
I do no jobs are hard to get these days, but I've been in employed work continually for the last 22 years in various jobs.
Starting with a few hours a week then to part time then full time as the kids got older.
I'm enjoying every minute being out there in the work place.
Even if it meant I had a bit less money I know I could hold my head up high and know I contribute to the economy with my taxes and be able to put into a pension.
Seems we are both workaholics Sue.Not easy is it.

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i totally get what your saying sue but why the hell should people be worse off for working?and people who are out of work now have no reason not to hold their head up high as it may not be their own fault!i worked 50 hours a week for minimum wage when i got a phone call one day saying to go back to base as the company had gone into liquidation,i had no notice or anything and ive got a family with 3 kids.i hate being on benefits and would take any job i was offered as long as i was either breaking even or better off!i really dont see why i should go to work to be worse off and make the goverment satistics of getting people back to work look good!at the end of the day the goverment should have a duty to make it that ANYBODY in work is better off!!

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snowhite people should not be on benefits for any amount of years as there is jobs out there but they do need to be better off or at least break even,and thats what im saying the goverment should make sure in some way they are!!

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