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Nothing is ever said about dogs urinating in the streets, which can often be on someones gateway. Maybe dog owners should be made to carry a squeezy bottle with a solution of water and disinfectant to wash it away.

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My dog wees over grids,I didn't teach her maybe her previous owner or while she was in the kennels


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That's great Star but a lot of owners seem to think it's acceptable to let them wee wherever they choose to stop.

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We could try planting more Trees smile

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Originally Posted by Vanmanone
We could try planting more Trees smile

That's only a solution for the men dogs smile

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Mines a girl dog but she can cock her leg on a tree if no grids available


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Originally Posted by starakita
Mines a girl dog but she can cock her leg on a tree if no grids available

That's girl power going too far smile

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we dont even have public conveniences

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Originally Posted by Dilly
Nothing is ever said about dogs urinating in the streets, which can often be on someones gateway. Maybe dog owners should be made to carry a squeezy bottle with a solution of water and disinfectant to wash it away.


Does anyone remember when a dog piddled on a gatepost, how it was considered as disgusting ? To see the trace of trickle down the post, was frowned upon and steered clear of. The mums (always the mums) would come out with their scrubbing brush and a bowl of Aunt Sally Disinfectant and scrub the gatepost, step, and surrounding pavement.
That was when dogs were allowed to wander the streets, willy nilly.

How standards have dropped, but it's much better they are now restricted to owners walking them, providing the owners are responsible, which I think most are. There are some though, who would be prepared to abandon any form of respect for others. I reckon there are a few on here too. They tend to hide when such subjects are discussed. wink


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More than 98% of those given fixed penalty notices for dropping litter in the borough were disposing of cigarette-related items - mainly cigarette ends - the statistics show.

So they have worked out where to make there money now.
£80,0000 in fines in one month !!!

I'm an EX Smoker, and it was the norm to just drop and stamp on it, i cant believe that this is there target audience now. I would love to here back from someone who has been fined and what they actually did if it was a cigarette with no where to put it out.

Times change i get that, but does this really mean on fireworks night if you set off a rocket your going to be fined for littering because its hot and you cant pick it up to put in a bit.

Littering to me, is throwing a bag of rubbish up a back entry or behind a wall, not a wrapper or a cigarette butt.

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1000 in a month is pretty intense, I would have thought.

It makes us wonder how many 'little Hitler litter spies' are out and about the roads, and how much of that money is going towards the salaries.

Must be to replace the revenue from spy cameras used to catch people parking in the wrong place.

Does this apply to cigarette ash too ? What about the leaves that blow from our trees and garden onto the road ?

To be honest, certain areas used to be quite bad for litter and when clean pavements are covered in chewing gum, it looks horrible. So if it makes people aware, then it has to be good. £80 is over the top.




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me and my mrs were walking through birkenhead the other day and she was smoking but there was nowhere for her to put her ciggy out so i just told her to throw it in the bin as if this is such a big target for these fines the council should make sure their is enough safe places to dispose of them to give people chance to avoid the fines and then if people fail to use the safe way provided they deserve to be fined!!

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Whats up with docking it and putting it in an old ciggy packet and taking it home? the same as people do with their litter.

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Think of this :

Following a person from say a sweet shop, you just done know how long they will take to eat or drink what they have bought, but follow someone with a cigarette for 10 mins and you have a result.

This is dirty tricks by the council, for me it does not send out the right message at all, if the campaign is about empty bottle and cans etc, how can they justify the 98% of fines towards smokers if there not trying to make as much money as they can.

Chewing gum, that has to be the worst offender, but that is going to take some time to follow a person etc.

For me this isn't a campaign about clean up the wirral this is targeting smokers as its easy money for the council to fine people.

I remember years ago on the lamp posts £1,000 fines for littering, but that did not include ciggarette buts. And no one really took any notice.

There fines do not represent as i would call rubbish which is how i would describe clean up wirral.

On that link it also states Just 90 fines were handed out between 2010 and 2015.

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