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This Corbyn seems to think he's a modern day Robin Hood. Rob the rich and give to the poor, great if it worked. Nobbling the corporations would lead to many of them moving out the country. More unemployment, less tax being paid, more people on benefit. He's going to do hell and all, HOW?

Its the other way around, the rich think they are Dick Turpin.

Who should earn the most a banker or a binman?

Many bankers earn over 100 times the amount a binman gets - why? Who gave them the right? Which is the harder worker?

Banker.

And now forget your conditioning - can you explain any reason why?

It's always been the thinkers and doers that bring prosperity and work to places and unfortunately we have to have the manual workers.im not saying DD it's fair, but just the way it is. Don't agree with everything tat goes on but without Richard Branson, Alan Sugars, Duncan Ballantynes etc who all started with nothing we would not have got very far...

Yes, and are you talking about Investment bankers, personal bankers, Merchant bankers ?

Have a look at salaries, between bankers and bin men. Have a look and see who owns the banks and who pays the bin men's wages. Have a look as a comparison and ask who should be paid more headmasters or bin men. Who pays the bankers wages and why private companies shouldn't pay their staff what they wish when their income comes from major companies world wide, (not you).

Have you worked in a bank , in investment banking, travelled the world every week in business meetings between different companies ? Set up businesses and had the qualification necessary to achieve international recognition ?

I suppose you would like banks nationalised ? Rediculous ideas! How can HSBC for example be nationalised ?

Do you know the work that goes on in the high street banks ? Do you know how much they earn ? Less than bin men in Birmingham do. If the bin men had more qualifications they too could work in a banking industry. Isn't that what going to university is about, so that those who do, get higher paid ,more qualified jobs.

Your ideology does not work DD. Never has and never will.

I ask again, should head master/mistresses get earn more than a bin man and why should they ?

There aren't many Labour politicians who support the Marxist ideals of Mr.Corbyn. If he becomes leader, there will soon be action to oust him: I can't justify this claim, all I can say is, wait and see.

@granny

You asked a lot of questions but you didn't answer mine - you should be a politician!

The reason you haven't managed to answer is because there isn't an answer other than people have been conditioned to think that way as cools effectively pointed out. However it wasn't always that way, society couldn't have formed on that basis, it could only have been formed on achievement and empathy/generosity.

Academic qualifications are an invention by academics to big-up themselves. There is nothing wrong with testing and checking people's workmanship and knowledge - there is a lot wrong with forcing every trade or occupation to do paper-based education at the cost of practical knowledge and experience.

I've seen hundreds of very highly skilled manual workers in machine shops and managerial roles who didn't have any qualifications.

I've come across many workers straight from University that hadn't got a clue how to do even the simplest aspects of their jobs, these include managers, bankers, programmers and engineers.

Anyone that has done an NVQ/GNVQ/Apprenticeship or similar in recent years will tell you that the hardest part is the administration of the course paperwork - the content (which is what matters) falls into insignificance.

To answer another of your questions - I am an executive manager of a bank, that is how I manage to live a very comfortable lifestyle of my choosing with virtually no effort required - in fact I have to do more effort handling my rubbish than I do in my banking activities.

Would you consider paying a binman for consistently failing to collect bins, bankers are not only paid for failing, they get bonuses for it as well! Tell me how that imbalance came about?

@cools

Richard Branson, Alan Sugars, Duncan Ballantynes are the lucky few, how many times have they gone bust or costed other innocent parties loads of money, how many other entrepreneurs have gone bust at others expense and livelihood.

Yes, we need risk takers to advance ourselves but the most important people we need are the ones that are capable of maintaining stability so that we don't go on a path of destruction - and as you can see around the World at the moment the risk-takers, power-hungry and attention seekers have the balance of power and the world is in one heck of a mess and rapidly descending into barbarism - we are on a path of self-destruction at national and international level.

Executive managers are typically among the highest earners in the country.

No wonder you were worried about your shed being discovered

That's just one of the many storage places not owned by me, I'm not allowed to keep my car parts and tools in the vaults.

.....and just for the record. I worked in a bank, my sister worked in a bank, my father worked in a bank, my mother worked in a bank, my aunt worked in a bank, my uncle worked in a bank, my grandmother worked in a bank. So a century of banking all on each individual merit, not nepotism, gives a pretty good insight for my opinions. Not conditioning.

Once in the bank , there are many more exams to be taken to get to higher places, but I'm sure you are qualified in them too, matching your position of Executive Manager !!

Have you ever been employed as a binman? Do you think you could have hacked it? Its one job I've never had but I have done removals.

Nothing wrong wrong with testing and checking people's workmanship and knowledge as I said above. It should however be relevant to needs.

Can't believe you worked in banks and live in Heswall

The worst neighbour I had in Heswall was a bank manager, I'm very sure it wasn't you or your relatives. Banks are generally like the rest of society, those at the bottom are treated like rubbish and those without friends/relatives in high places only get so far, licking posteriors on the golf course also helps a lot - I just promoted myself instead of doing all the faffing around.

I don't live in Heswall and neither did any of my relatives. Try Leeds, Liverpool, Warrington and North Wales.
Other jobs have included, washing café floors and dishes, serving meals in restaurants . Mopping up sick from violently seasick army personnel travelling on the Irish ferries, and I'm not adverse to letting that be known. I bet you haven't mopped up sick on a nightly basis ....masses of it!

One of the worst jobs I did was on disco floor lights in nightclubs, vomit and ale that had been brewing for years and regularly topped up. Wasn't allowed to use bleach because "it could wreck the reflector" seemed to be a joke when the reflector was no longer visible anyway!

I've also done macerator repair.

My own personnel experience has been the higher I got salaried the less work I did and also the less meaningful/essential a lot of the work was.

So can anyone attempt to justify why bankers are paid more than binmen other than tradition/conditioning?

Binmen have it easy today with wheely bins which residents have to take to the kerbside. Compare that with the situation when I was young: the binmen carried the full bin from your premises, emptied it into the wagon and returned the bin. The bins were galvanised steel and in some locations the bin wagon would not get within a hundred yards or more of the house. That was a tough job; don't compare it with the job today.