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#217983 21st Mar 2008 6:54pm
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One of the many bits of trivia I have collected over the years is a book (maybe 300 pages) titled

"Outline Plan for the County Borough of Birkenhead"

My copy has hardly been touched over the years and a 38 x 30 " map in a rear flap pocket has probably never been opened.

The page size is an odd 9.5 x 12 inches so I had to dig out the A3 scanner to copy some of themto insert below

[That is if I can work out HOW to insert an image - I am very new to this site]

I have only attached two images for the moment in case I have done it wrong or the file size is too large etc. If I have then I am sure someone will tell me.

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[Linked Image]

OK, let us see how we get on with those and whether there is any interest in more as scans of text or photos.

Because the book is a PLAN it contains a fair number of maps and photos of the "as it was/ as it is" state - and then even more of the artists impression type ie what some folk thought Birkenhead could look like with various redevelopment schemes.

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Yeh we would love to see more wink

If you need help uploading Click Me

If your still stuck please pm me wink
And we will help.


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OK Folks here goes with 3 more scans from the book - all showing the "as is" scene around 1947

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wirralhistory-coal-dump-full-size.jpg (204.13 KB, 207 downloads)
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Right that has sorted one thing - the file sizes were too big to show the pictures diectly. It would be helpful to have a file size guideline please.

Anyway - I guess links take up less bandwidth on the server

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Three more files. Most seem to be of the dock/ waterfront area

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Ariel view of the Four Bridges route across to Wallasey

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Woodside railway station viewed from the river

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Areiel view of Woodside and the Grayson, Rollo & Clover Docks

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Ariel view of the Four Bridges route across to Wallasey
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Woodside railway station viewed from the river
wirralhistory-woodside-full-size.jpg (399.43 KB, 205 downloads)
Areiel view of Woodside and the Grayson, Rollo & Clover Docks

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Wow. Tremendous stuff; more please.


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The really interesting question is whether this book is generally available through local archives? I really have NO idea when/ where I acquired it. I THINK it was when I was given a whole load of books (mostly novels) by a widow after her husband died. That would have been in the early/ mid 1960s. I have no idea what her husband's job had been but MAYBE it was something to do with the council. Whatever, the book is in near pristine condition and the maps and Borough history it contains are no doubt fascinating to the Birkenhead oriented members.

Because of the unusual page size and a need to set up an A3 scanner it will take a bit of time to do some more work for future posts.

Some of the fold out pages are even too big for the A3 scanner

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Yes, this is excellent, I am loving every page of this so far!!

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I note that Jono has provided a "key dates" list.

https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=207440#Post207440

Well, the following set of scans will provide him with some homework to update the list. They are scans of pages from the 1947 document in which they list the history of Birkenhead. Reference is made to "the maps". Those maps (some geological, other showing fields then roads then industry run from 1824 through to 1945. Scanning those will be a separate job - and we will have to see what the scan quality is like

For the moment - read on

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Page 1 of section 1
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page 2 of section 1
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page 3 (no, not that sort of page 3) of section 1

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And the four final pages of section 1

Happy reading for the Bank Holiday weekend

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page 5 of section 1
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page 6 of section 1
timeline07.JPG (243.38 KB, 196 downloads)
and the final page 7 of section 1

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happy fantastic documents there and pictures.. Must be an excellent book laugh


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Originally Posted by Snodvan
Right that has sorted one thing - the file sizes were too big to show the pictures diectly. It would be helpful to have a file size guideline please.

Anyway - I guess links take up less bandwidth on the server

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100kb for displaying images.
And 1mb Max upload size wink

I will try and re-size them for you so they show in the topics wink

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Each picture there is a topic in its own rights wink
Amazing, and thank you so much for sharing.
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Fantastic stuff ,cnat wait to read .Now know what i am going to do tomorrow


It all makes perfect sense expressed in dollars and cents ,pound shillings and pence
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Jonno

I have just sent Mark a PM with a couple of images of the maps, asking for his advice ie are the images good enough to post. The issue is that the original images are only about 6x5 inches and even with a magnifier the detail is "miserable". Scanning gives a bigger picture but still no more detail.

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do you have any editing soft ware ,ie photoshop.If you do try and play around with the images in there

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