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If the petition is successful, which I'm sure it will be, then we will possibly have to follow Mr.Juncker's proposition from today.
As follows:
'Big increase'
Posted at 16:49
The Financial Times reports that European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker is to propose a big increase in the number of migrants to whom EU countries would be required to give temporary refuge, arguing it should rise from the 40,000 agreed in July to 160,000.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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when you think of all the caravan sites and camp sites that there are in this country that generally only cater for holiday makers and which have launderette, shop toilet shower facilities etc I am sure the country could take many thousands. During the war we housed around 250,000 prisoners of war in approx. 170 POW camps.can be done when we want to. Put them to work on projects that have been held back due to lack of funds. Liverpools mayor said Liverpool would take 100. well its a meagre start
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Omg these scenes are terrible to watch and heartbreakingly sad. What can be done? At least as a temporary measure I still think there are islands and land that is uninhabited and with a lot of money and everybody helping to set up some kind of communes with facilities and shelters .inknow these people don't want that but surely it's better than this chaos and tragedy. It wouldn't have to be forever just to ease this problem.Am I really talking crazy and would this just be really that unworkable?
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Trouble in this country, you make temporary accommodation then 2 days later some court says it doesn't meet their rights and we end up paying for them to be in 5* hotels.
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Wasn't this country I was thinking of DD. I was thinking of all the countries involved together providing the funds and wherewithall and setting up some kinds of refuge camps with facilities etc. There are loads of uninhabited islands and places which could be used as temporary communes and I know would cost a huge amount of money but huge amounts are allready being spent and it's not working. As I say it's not what they want but surely is better than what they've got now. Is this viable or not?
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Nice thought Cools but uninhabited islands would have no facilities no running water, no sanitation , no electricity. Things would soon turn to squalour.
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Well I know it's crazy Dilly but I still think as a short term measure it could be done .,I've watched these programmes where people just take off and decide to live in a remote place and they do it. There would have to be a lot of assistance given maybe water brought in ,food of course we'll all manner of things.it wouldn't be easy I know and I most probably crazy thinking it could work. Generators, solar panels, things like that. Oh I don't know , bloody IS to blame for all this,trying to destabilise the world. God I wish for a miracle.....
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How about Scotland, Cools ? Plenty of space there. Mrs Stugeon is thinking we should all help. Plenty of farming land, good transport, crofts that can be refurbished, beautiful lochs for fishing ,Oil, and scotch. What more could anyone wish for ?
Maybe someone should put a message up on twitter to advertise that Scotland is open.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Regarding comments made about Wales and Scotland taking in their own quotas , and likewise all the uk councils -- I would imagine once accepted , these refugees being free , are immediately likely to move to wherever they want to be in the country , and congregate in ghettos, probably major English cities - blowing careful dispersal plans out of the window.
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As the majority of the migrants seem to be fit young men, can anyone tell me why they're not at home protecting their families or fighting to defend their country instead of abandoning everything and everyone and legging it over to Europe?
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Can it be called opportunism, something for nothing, thinking, stupid decadent countries why not, EU open borders.
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I was just thinking what would of happen in ww2 if everyone ran away, why not stand and fight for your country, what going to happen if Isis come here do we all run away or fight on?
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If these extraordinarily powerful images of a dead Syrian child washed up on a beach don't change Europe's attitude to refugees, what will?The independent is now showing the poor dead boys picture on the shore not the carried picture to change attitudes. You may find the images on this page distressing Click Me The images of the boy is a game changer. RIP
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What game changer would that be, how many little ones die in Britain every day, why did his father survive and his younger brother die, why did his father decide the grass was greener in Europe and pay 5000 euro's to take his family on a boat without safety aids and away from a UNHCR registered safe country like Turkey, which I believe he had been living and working in a holiday resort for a few years, most countries would have him up for manslaughter, pity save it for it for what Britain will receive when these people find British benefits are more generous than the German ones and walse into the country showing their German passports, I do hope you have a decent job to pay for the taxes that the country will need, sympathy and pity then nah, it's all gone now.
All this info is/was picked up from varous papers and t,internet,
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