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Lots of Union Jacks flying and in Windows today, wonder why? Lol....
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My concern is how companies who've been forced to adhere to EU rules will now conduct themselves.
Do you think the likes of United Utilities who have to spend millions of their profits to keep our seas, rivers and beaches clean will do so out of the goodness of their own hearts?
How long until raw sewage and waste is being dumped directly into the sea and rivers again? And for a region surrounded by water on three sides, I don't hold out much hope.
We were known as the "dirty man of Europe" for many years. Our foreign neighbours were shocked at how filthy we were, how we didn't recycle. The argument is that we will be able to set our own standards on such things. It could be said that if the Govt might be so keen on industry getting on its feet fast, they will relax rules - but normally , we are the country who takes difficult EU rules that the likes of France bend or ignore , and obeys them to the letter, even interpreting them more severely than necessary. Who knows what will happen. Can you trust any Govt?
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Oh my god!!! Its all happening. Its only hours since the vote/result!
Talk on the radio here already, that were "Coming for the 6 Counties!!!"
See, there not " plumb" here, give them an inch and they want a mile. I can understand your concern lollipop. There will now have to be a manned border will there not if one half is not in the EU ?
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EU furious ! Furious at Cameron, and saying they don't want to wait 3 months to start negotiations. Turning the screws already. Who wanted to be with an organisation that makes threats to decapitate anyway ?
That spells out that they were hoping to manipulate Cameron in the case of the Brexit vote. I wonder if he has suspected that, and has also decided to resign with that possibility in mind, rather than having his arm pushed up his back. Wait and see. I bet he gets a job offer from Merkel or Schultz to be on the renegotiating team for our exit from the EU .Whether or not we will hear about that, remains to be seen.
We are the second largest contributor to the EU and without our money paying the bailout fees for all the others, ECB and IMF are in a really bad situation.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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My concern is how companies who've been forced to adhere to EU rules will now conduct themselves.
Do you think the likes of United Utilities who have to spend millions of their profits to keep our seas, rivers and beaches clean will do so out of the goodness of their own hearts?
How long until raw sewage and waste is being dumped directly into the sea and rivers again? And for a region surrounded by water on three sides, I don't hold out much hope.
We were known as the "dirty man of Europe" for many years. Our foreign neighbours were shocked at how filthy we were, how we didn't recycle. All of those things are encompassed in UK law, virtually all EU Directives are encompassed by National Legislation. The discharges into the Mediterranean had far less treatment than the UK into its coastal waters, it is just that there was less people/industry around the Med so less pollution.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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The Mediterranean is not tidal either, so what sits, stays.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Good on the uk to have the balls to say enough Cameron so behind the uk hes off like a ferret. He knows we hate him and his destructive agenda & lies. Sturgeons wittering on like a spoilt baby. I bet the city bet & made alot of £ out the pound falling. They dont give a toss Euro market is a small part of world trade Calm down britain . Itll right itself Its a big up yours to scumbag tories...more than anything
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Watch all the other euro ( destroyed by the euro) countries want referendums themselves soon Italy for example Germany etc etc All weve done is voted to be a " normal " country Govern ourselves Im made up!! Go for a drink tonite
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Watch all the other euro ( destroyed by the euro) countries want referendums themselves soon Italy for example Germany etc etc All weve done is voted to be a " normal " country Govern ourselves Im made up!! Go for a drink tonite
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Are they serious? Theres a petition online , with Londoners demanding a second referendum as the 'out' result didnt suit them. The Govt is going to have its hands full dealing with Scotland , and Ireland , without problems in the capital . Surely theres no which way this petition can get anywhere, so its just a waste of precious time debating it -- time thats needed for politicians to work with Europe to sort out the best route through this divorce. Unpatriotic . undemocratic and selfish in my opinion.
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Civil unrest maybe Londoners would like a Lexit from the rest of us. This us only the first day hope things settle down and this turns out ok. The EU are going to make an example of us to deterr others. Definitely a grit your teeth and hold on tight, it's going to be a bumpy ride...
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The EU are going to make an example of us to deterr others. Can't wait, it would be the ultimate action that would backfire on them, they might make our life difficult for a short while but the retaliation from other EU countries would be immense.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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The EU are going to make an example of us to deterr others. Can't wait, it would be the ultimate action that would backfire on them, they might make our life difficult for a short while but the retaliation from other EU countries would be immense. Why ? Arent the other countries feeling miffed at us and would like to see us squirm a bit ?
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Are they serious? Theres a petition online , with Londoners demanding a second referendum as the 'out' result didnt suit them. The Govt is going to have its hands full dealing with Scotland , and Ireland , without problems in the capital . Surely theres no which way this petition can get anywhere, so its just a waste of precious time debating it -- time thats needed for politicians to work with Europe to sort out the best route through this divorce. Unpatriotic . undemocratic and selfish in my opinion. Already more than enough votes on it to command Parliament to debate it.
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Is it just me or is the media attempting to put the 'Leavers' on some sort of a guilt trip?
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