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Were we not informed by the council a couple of years back that we MUST NOT put food waste or anything else that had come out of our kitchens in the Brown re-cycling bin because of contamination? Is this the same CONTAMINATED waste they are now asking for???
I understand its to meet the EU guidelines. And EU that we VOTED to EXIT. I believe its to give less and less, although how this is "saving" except by less fuel for collections is beyond me.
No guesses as to what the results will be.
1) Council provides smaller bins and comes round as often or 2) Leave bins as they are and council comes around less often.
The result is more un-trackable dumping or more queueing and chugging fumes out as we all visit the tip to dump our excess waste.
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The real question is how much is this going to cost the tax payer in the long run, be it the Council saves a million or ten million a year, if they replace the larger bin with a smaller one, who pays? If they give you a food bin and it goes missing, blows away etc and you need a replacement one, who pays? And all this new food waste will go into a Bio plant which is being built, well thats a no brainer then its a done deal, Council gets its backhanders from the Bioplant, the Bio plant makes its money selling the power, and we end up paying for new bins.
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Garden Waste bin collection is to go up to £45 2017-2018
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the people at the town hall are fcukwits,my food waste if any will be going in the road bins with the dog muck,or on the town hall steps,they are going to sell this waste but won't us to collect it for them/they should be paying us,whatever the clowns at the townhall do i do the opposite,should just have two bins where you can put anything in and update the recycle centres to sort it when it's tipped in,but then who would get the contracts to make the new food bins? its all a con,AND I WILL NOT BE ANY PART OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Garden Waste bin collection is to go up to £45 2017-2018 Well I don't know how they can do that, unless the contract is up for renewal. They used to be 10 yr contracts and as a council is not supposed to make profits, then that must be severely out of order. If the contract is up for renewal, then the same must apply to when they first introduced the brown bin charges. It's not 10 yrs since, surely ? 2015 https://www.biffa.co.uk/news/biffas-ten-year-contract-extension-to-save-wirral-13-million/
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The brown bin charge is a Council charge, not a Biffa charge.
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I need 2 and even that isn't enough. Just means I won't get any and will create a mountain of grass cuttings etc. to give off all the carbons, and they can have their precious brown bins back. Sod them.. if we don't pay for parking they'll skin the pensioners in a different way. Unfortunately I can't climb those bloody steps with bags of garden waste at the recycling centres any longer.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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The brown bin charge is a Council charge, not a Biffa charge. Yes, and the Council pay Biffa for the contract. If Biffa are saving the council millions, over the next 10yr contract, then it must be that the council are putting up costs and ,making a profit against the savings and then including cleaning of New Brighton.. which wasn't part of the contract before.
Last edited by granny; 21st Feb 2017 11:18pm.
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Whilst Biffa probably have done a costing exercise, I very much doubt the Council has and there is no way Biffa tells the Council what it actually costs. Council figure is arbitrary based on market demand.
The Biffa contract might not be a constant payment (I haven't checked) it might rise with inflation or time.
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Right DD it could be a fluctuating price contract to cater for changes in Govt charges/taxes for waste disposal landfill etc. but that would be based on weight or volume. Smaller bins would possibly incur less govt tax but i doubt that saving would be passed on. I could be knackered if any more of my gardening customers decide to not renew brown bins. Will have to be a bit tougher with some of them and insist they get a brown bin or take the cuttings to the tip themselves...running out of disguises on my many tip trips. The minimum charge for tipping garden waste is £25 for a small van trailer load which may be acceptable if your doing a big job but just grass cutting it would take several weeks to get enough to make it feasible. At £7 per rubble sack full of plasterboard its no wonder fly tipping goes on. Saw a fresh load of rubble bags fly tipped in landican lane this afternoon.
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Why can't you get a license Fish and then charge for collection and delivery of garden waste to tip ? I don't know how much they are or how easy they are to acquire.
Could be a business for a young entrepreneur with a truck. I'd sooner pay them than the thieving council.
Let's wait for the announcement on increased council tax. Place your bets here:
Granny thinks 4%
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Granny. The thought did cross my mind but the maths didn't add up.
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