WikiWirral Online with you since 2003, fantastic.
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics76,460
Posts1,033,932
Members14,835
Most Online44,182
Mar 18th, 2025
Who's Online Now
11 members (Alanbentley, 3 invisible), 8,497 guests, and 611 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters
sunnyside 45,164
MattLFC 22,315
Mark 21,269
granny 17,809
_Ste_ 16,347
Newest Members
ShimmyKimmie, seekemlad, Alanbentley, smiddy, Philbarlow
14,835 Registered Users
New General Forums
Illuminated Bus WW2
by Alanbentley - 19th Apr 2025 5:11pm
Cancel Account?
by ladams888 - 30th Mar 2025 6:25pm
Royal Iris
by cools - 3rd Mar 2017 6:16pm
New Wirral History
Belgium Chateau
by bert1 - 16th Apr 2025 6:55am
Bedford Park Athletic Grounds
by bert1 - 13th Apr 2025 8:34am
Old War Memorial Egroment
by Tranquil - 9th Apr 2025 12:54pm
Dangers of Laudanum
by bert1 - 6th Apr 2025 10:33am
Bidston Docks!
by Bronski - 27th Mar 2025 4:11pm
Top Posters(30 Days)
bert1 18
granny 6
Topic Replies
Wirral Schools now gone bye
by diggingdeeper - 19th Apr 2025 8:34am
New Ferry regeneration
by diggingdeeper - 19th Apr 2025 8:04am
Lower Bebington
by Alanbentley - 17th Apr 2025 11:54am
Belgium Chateau
by bert1 - 16th Apr 2025 6:55am
Bedford Park Athletic Grounds
by bert1 - 16th Apr 2025 6:48am
Cancel Account?
by KevinFinity - 12th Apr 2025 11:12pm
Fire inHamilton Square station
by diggingdeeper - 12th Apr 2025 1:41am
Old War Memorial Egroment
by Tranquil - 9th Apr 2025 3:25pm
Dangers of Laudanum
by bert1 - 6th Apr 2025 10:33am
April
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
bert1 5
Top Likes Received
bert1 23
casper 4
Mark 4
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#1044068 8th Sep 2017 6:27pm
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 417
Smartchild
OP Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 417
Does anybody know what the phoenix Club building in Ellesmere Port was built for? it seems rather ornate for a social Club more like a civic hall type place.

Google Ads
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,478
Likes: 31
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,478
Likes: 31
Absolutely wild guess but it might have been offices for the steelworks across the road or it could have been a works club for the same. I think the steelworks started in 1908 as Wolverhampton Corrugated Iron Works, then Summers took them over, then HH Robertson (Robertson-thain) was there site then British Steel took them over.

Greenalls brewery had the club in 1978, they used to have a good archive/history department. The ornate club building was definitely there in 1950.


We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn

https://ddue.uk
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 417
Smartchild
OP Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 417
I never thought of that but it's the most logical answer, just can't prove it. My Father in Law lost an arm in an accident in the ironworks during the war, sadly he's deceased otherwise I'd have asked him, but I think you're right, next time I'm in the Port I'll nip in the reference library and enquire. Thanks

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,478
Likes: 31
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,478
Likes: 31
Looking at some old maps, it was built between 1929 and 1937, roughly the same time as Cromwell road itself. It corresponded with the factory straight across the road, not the ironworks that were further down the road that were much older. It was marked as "Club" in 1937.


We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn

https://ddue.uk
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,721
Likes: 23
Wiki Veteran
Offline
Wiki Veteran
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,721
Likes: 23
Cromwell Rd is mentioned in the 1914 directory trades section for a building contractor, that's about all.

The only mention for a club in the 1923 Kelly's Directory is,

United Service,
John McNay (Sec)
Cromwell rd.
Ellesmere Port, Bhead.

As far as I know, United Services Clubs were originally Gentlemen's clubs for Army & Navy officers, etc.

The building certainly looks the part.


God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,086
Forum Veteran
Offline
Forum Veteran
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,086
I've been inside the building a couple of times - all I can tell you is having worked for H.H.Robertson for 25 years it had nothing to do with them (1972-1997 closure) - of course many employees used the club as their local/and other activities fishing club/dominoes etc.

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,478
Likes: 31
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,478
Likes: 31
Well done Bert, strange that the club and the road doesn't appear on the 1929 map, but that may just have been a revision issue which often relies on 3rd party information for any changes.


We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn

https://ddue.uk

Moderated by  Mod 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Lower Bebington
by Alanbentley - 16th Apr 2025 7:00pm
Belgium Chateau
by bert1 - 16th Apr 2025 6:55am
Bedford Park Athletic Grounds
by bert1 - 13th Apr 2025 8:34am
Fire inHamilton Square station
by Excoriator - 11th Apr 2025 4:55pm
Old War Memorial Egroment
by Tranquil - 9th Apr 2025 12:54pm
For Sale & Free
Member Spotlight
Tranquil
Tranquil
Wallasey
Posts: 131
Joined: March 2012
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
New Wirral Info
Lower Bebington
by Alanbentley - 16th Apr 2025 7:00pm
Fire inHamilton Square station
by Excoriator - 11th Apr 2025 4:55pm
News : New Topics
Jets flying overhead
by granny - 27th Mar 2025 11:44am
New Ferry regeneration
by Excoriator - 16th Mar 2025 4:22pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Popular Topics(Views)
10,294,797 CW Chat room thread
5,565,887 WIKI WALK CHAT
4,405,951 Spotted!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5