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This should be funded by the governments of the world and all contributing to the research.
If knowledge is shared the vaccine is found faster and more money will be saved than holding on to their findings.
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This should be funded by the governments of the world and all contributing to the research.
If knowledge is shared the vaccine is found faster and more money will be saved than holding on to their findings.
But Governments cannot even agree to not knock ten bells out of each other's countries, let alone agree on cross-funding. Furthermore most Governments can't even ensure that everybody has food or medicine inside their own country. Lives don't matter as long as capitalism is still alive and kicking! If it took 10,000 blood donation to make one dose of vaccine, can you predict what each Government would do?
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That is one of the things I hate about capitalism, pure greed. I'd hope that whatever country finds a vaccine, they will pass on the knowledge of it to the rest of the world, at a fair price at least.
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i see Boris the cowardly lion has thrown the onus onto employers for people returning to work,the TV license mess onto the BBC, they will accept no responsibility for anything, they must have a department looking for ways to evade blame, the Patel bullying saga has faded into oblivion, Cummings is safe and well, they are probably looking for something more to pin on the Russians.
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He's left Council's in the lurch yet again, promising the world then only coming up with 10% of what he promised. Council's will get the blame for a Government uck-fup.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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Got to say how many people can be affected by one person.
My daughter came to visit me the other day, she also went to see her brother as neither of us have seen her for 12 months.
She was staying with a friend in Southport, and another friend joined them from London, who was not originally supposed to be arrivinng.
That particular person had a cough. By time my daughter had arrived home after driving to Kent was feeling pretty ill , the cough appeared a day later. Yesterday she went for a test. Results in a couple of days .
She doubts it is Covid, but if it should be.. that would mean :
Myself,
2 x sons
1 partner of son
2 children of son
1 mother of children
1 baby just born to mother of children
1 child of 3 yrs
! work partner of son
1 at risk mother of partner of son.
1 duaghter of my daughter
1 partner of my daughter
1 father of my daughters partner who has just had 2 heart operations following a heart attack . (he's helping his mum and dad on a daily basis along with his sister)
1 mother of my daughter's partner who is wheelcahir bound and vulnerable.
all possibly infected from one person in the immediate family. That's pretty scary !
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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Oh god Granny , it's so worrying this stinking virus. Do hope it comes back negative, you won't be able to rest till you get result...I still say I had this before Christmas and more and more people are saying they too. I didn't get a bad dose but it sent me to bed for couple of days and had the cough which was a very different cough to any I've had. I said to my sister it was like no flu I've ever had. Any way I'm going for a blood test at end of month to my doctors over something and I'm going to ask if it can be tested for c-19 antibodies.
Don't know whether they will do but still I'd really like to know. You take care Granny let's hope alls well..
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Got to say how many people can be affected by one person.
My daughter came to visit me the other day, she also went to see her brother as neither of us have seen her for 12 months.
She was staying with a friend in Southport, and another friend joined them from London, who was not originally supposed to be arrivinng.
That particular person had a cough. By time my daughter had arrived home after driving to Kent was feeling pretty ill , the cough appeared a day later. Yesterday she went for a test. Results in a couple of days .
She doubts it is Covid, but if it should be.. that would mean :
Myself,
2 x sons
1 partner of son
2 children of son
1 mother of children
1 baby just born to mother of children
1 child of 3 yrs
! work partner of son
1 at risk mother of partner of son.
1 duaghter of my daughter
1 partner of my daughter
1 father of my daughters partner who has just had 2 heart operations following a heart attack . (he's helping his mum and dad on a daily basis along with his sister)
1 mother of my daughter's partner who is wheelcahir bound and vulnerable.
all possibly infected from one person in the immediate family. That's pretty scary !
Honestly, if more people were half as aware of the potential risk as you are, we could have put a lid on this much sooner, and be a leading example. As it is, we're one of the highest risk areas. I've fallen out with all the neighbours in my building due to their lackadaisical approach to their own safety, and they treat me like the odd one out. Best wishes and stay safe Granny and Family. My own Department here at Liverpool Heart and Chest Hospital has been missing an influential Colleague who is recovering from bowel cancer, and has been continuing to influence us by showing her strength and determination to be there for her Grandchildren. We'll all miss her as a colleague when she retires, but I'm glad that through sticking to the rules (and she is very headstrong), she will soon be healthy enough to do the best job in the world - being a Grandparent.
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Amazed at the different attitudes in different places
A couple of weeks ago on one of our walks at Marbury, we were treated like lepers, people were crossing roads, walking down other peoples drives, diving behind hedges and all-sorts, I don't think anyone came within 15ft of us.
Today near Leek people were hanging around in the most awkward locations forcing people to brush past them.
Find it quite a mixture around here, apart from inside shops most people appear to be respectful and at least make a nominal attempt at social distancing if they see you take the initiative but if you don't start the Fred Astaire moves they happily head close to you.
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Thanks for the good wishes and I hope your work colleague is recovered enough soon to enjoy life, MisterSmiff.
Good news, and as she expected, her results came back in less than 24 hours. Negative. So that is a blessing.
We cannot account for others, but we still need to be vigilant at all times.
I have found that in my area of Wirral, (as Im not going any further afield as yet) people are still generally keeping the distance and many wearing masks when out and about, but it is noticeable that more are beginning to squeeze past at closer proxiity in certain situations. Generally young kids and twenty somethings. They seem to have now considered the dangers to be over to one degree or another.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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Oh god Granny , it's so worrying this stinking virus. Do hope it comes back negative, you won't be able to rest till you get result...I still say I had this before Christmas and more and more people are saying they too. I didn't get a bad dose but it sent me to bed for couple of days and had the cough which was a very different cough to any I've had. I said to my sister it was like no flu I've ever had. Any way I'm going for a blood test at end of month to my doctors over something and I'm going to ask if it can be tested for c-19 antibodies.
Don't know whether they will do but still I'd really like to know. You take care Granny let's hope alls well.. That's interesting Cool. My daughter was also convinced she had it early this year, along with a number of her teaching collegues after a school party had returned from a school trip to Italy in February . I am sure she would have mentioned that yesterday when she had her test, I must ask her . At that point she was told to take the measures of isolation for two weeks , as she came to the end of isolation, lockdown was introduced.
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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Glad you and your family are safe and well granny , I am appalled at the failure to take measures and follow advice in some Wallasey area's, Liscard in particular, most shops and shopping areas have guidance and measures in place, but the majority just ignore them, football fans celebrating seem oblivious linking shoulders dancing chanting, imagine the expelled air and spittle droplets circulating around them, they then go home to their families, imagine the potential for a full blown epidemic should one be infected, stay safe.
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Oh so glad for you Granny, you can rest easy now.... yes Casper I find that with younger ones they just not acknowledging there is a problem. I'm like a dodgem car sometimes even having to go up people's driveways because a gang of youths taking all pavement up and no intentions of letting you pass safely. A lot of them come out with it's all made up and governments way of controlling us!!! Not all I stress most understand I think about the virus . Talk about being alert , I got an itchy toe other day and it went red with me itching it then I heard that was now a symptom of C-19,,,OMG but if course it wasn't and it was just an itchy toe ha.
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In the news today, Devon and Cornwall police say they wont attend shops over people not wearing masks unless there is violence or disorder, no doubt others are thinking on the same lines, I wonder when it was decided that police forces are allowed to pick and choose which crimes or incidents they attend, its obvious that they can't stop illegal raves, reading through various media outlets I cant believe the amount of people that are anti mask and see the wearing of them as some sort of an imposition or an attack on their human rights.
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