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I think there was once a brook that started around mount road. I guess This has now been culverted and runs under Heswall Avenue and Brimstage Avenue and crosses Kings road to make its way into the Allotments where it emerges briefly. There it runs after heavy rain in a ditch or small valley along the south side of the allotments until it reaches a grid near Kingsbrook way and vanishes from view,

From this point on it is underground now, and has been turned into a sewer I guess, but its original course can be clearly seen in the course it cut in the land along the South side of the allotments behind the houses on Princes Boulevard until it gets to the cae park behind Bebington Road Tesco. It crosses Kings road near the Kings and following the lowest point continues behind the Sops making its way towards Woodhey , passing teh oval and following the road to Bebindgton stations and passing below the railway bridge.

From there it runs - I guess - under Brook street through Port sunlight and passes under the New Chester Road between Corniche Rd and Lodge Lane, Goes under the bypass and emerges as the main sewage input to Bromborough Waste treatment plant.

From looking at road names such as Kingsbrook Road, and Brook Street I expect it was called the something brook, and the oldest road I can find which may have been built when it was still a recognisable brook is Ashbrook Terrace suspect it might once have been called the Ash Brook.

I have been told it was called the Withert, but I am sceptical about this,

Can anyone confirm ny guesswork here? Is it the Ash Brook? If not, what?

I really don't think it has ever had a formal name so so it was probably nicknamed locally in different areas hence Dale, Withert, Wood, Ash etc all occurring depending who you speak to.

A fair length was the formal boundary of Tranmere yet isn't named in the boundary description, just described.

My favourite would be Wood Burn but that's because I am half jock, it would tie up with its source being in Storeton Wood.

You can see in the corner a wet spot by the railings 1002 borough road nearly opposite brimstage avenue. The next easiest place to see it is off princess gardens kingsbrook then its culverted past beb station to pass in-front of levers museum . On a good day you can here it at the large grids . A friend saw it when the grids where lifted.

The culvert starts at the back of the Kings Arms car park (where the bowling green used to be).

I should have its source was Pine Woods, not Storeton Woods as I said above.

I think the culvert starts much higher up than the Kings Arms ca park. Up in Kingsbrook way.

I think from that point on its a sewer serving the houses on the northern side of Princes Boulevard. That said I haven't done any serious exploring.

There is still a stream bed down past the allotments all the way to the Kings Arms, I don't know if it has water in it, I'll have a look. They could have put a culvert under the stream bed but I doubt it, they could have simply laid a ground pipe along the route instead of digging a deep cut and shut

When the bowling green was still at the Kings Arms there was definitely water in that stream (1970s).

I'm guessing Kingsbrook Way is having their surface water and maybe foul water pumped back up to the main sewer on Borough Road by the pumping station at the SE end of Kingsbrook Way and at the same time diverting the stream's water the same way. This could be part of the plans to reduce surface water that floods the lower part of Kings Lane by diverting the stream to Borough Road.

It also looks like there may be underground flood tanks at the pumping station.

A possible flaw in my argument is that we have had floods since Kingsbrook Way was built (1996?) but I don't know when the pumping station was built and perhaps it still has an overflow down the stream bed. If the Kings Arms culvert is little used it will accumulate debris easily. I assume the Kings Road surface water also leads into the culvert or they have an overflow between the two in one direction or the other

It looks like the stream was also diverted slightly when WestGarth was built (which became Galtres School, since replaced by Galtres Park) which might be when the culvert was built.

The area around Woodburn area has had significant changes in land level, no maps have any ponds there so the stream had a clear route which clearly it doesn't any longer.

There was another stream between what is now Buckingham Avenue and Kingswood Boulevard who's source is even less clear, it joined this stream around the Jackson Close area but looks like it had been diverted that way.