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Reboot

Easiest way and quickest.

I don't arse around with the services, and i can keep my
main pc on for a month or more with out a reboot.

Its Microsoft and its updates in the night that
re-boot my machine.

problem for me is, with this dodgy version of xp, after around 20 hours, nothing will load or close, not even task manager.

just get memory errors.

and then when it restarts, i get the good old BSOD, into safe mode, wait for HDD activity (must load somethin...but I have no idea what!) then restart and boot up normally.

Has vista improved on memory leakage compared to xp?

There are some people that may not have the knowledge of pc's but then futher into a couple of years into use of the pc, even starting up the pc, it loads up very slow so what can be done to deal with it.

I've been using some pc's which have been said to be running gd and smooth the day they were purchased but couple years into using it, it starts up slow and applications load up slow. so even with a reboot this cannot solve the problem. As the above question what can be done?

its normally due too too many services and applications running at startup.

It is explained how to stop these from starting up in previous posts (msconfig - for xp)

Another good tool is Windows Startup Inspector.

None of the items in MSConfig and Windows Startup Inspector need to be there (therefore, they can all be unchecked and won't cause problems).
They are additional to the critial system processes which start up automatically.

system de frag
reduce items sitting in your start up menu.

Trust me i'm keeping it simple

I've already mentioned this and as matty has already mentioned too, it doesn't really improve start up time or performance, and I'd have to agree with him.

Hence the best way, it to minimise the amount of applications running at startup (which may be secretly running from something called the registry)

Windows Startup Inspector or MSConfig finds these applications and allows you to prevent them from starting up.

As I've already said, a lot of lame viruses and trojans use these methods to continue being opened on your computer everytime you restart.

Trust me it does on a machine that's never ran a defrag.
Over time your start up programs can get out of hand,
even redundant programs still sitting in there.

I would check those pomp before going in to the msconfig
and switching off items you dont know what and why there are there.
At least if you remove them from your start up programs list
in your menu your playing it safe

Extra Fonts installed cause a machine to slow at start up.
Low disc space, Anti virus programs, spybots etc
A million reasons why.

It doesnt on an NT OS, especially if you are running on NTFS.

If you really think it does, then its a placebo im afraid. I defragged my HP earlier this year, hadnt been defragged in about 4 or 5 years, and it made such little difference it is not worth the time it takes to defrag.

Windows NT was designed not to need defragging, as it's background is WFW and that showed Microsoft that things like fragmentation needed work doing because of its close relation to 3.1 and MS-DOS, which is what the 9x background was built upon.

Windows NT Web Servers never get defragged, and they do a hell of a lot I/O work then a user PC, and are running 24/7, sometimes without reboots for months.

They also get a right hammering from constantly changing files etc...

If a web server doesnt need defragging, or has very little gain from doing so, a user computer will never need it.

I disagree totally.
I have seen massive improvements to machines. (yes the first can take a while)
I don't make this shit up its from personal experience.
If its no use then why does windows have defrag then?
By the way were talking desktops to help pomp, not web servers.

Defrag can help your machine start up quicker and if your lucky
perform a little better too.

I usually notice small improvements in my servers in work.

tend to notice some improvements on my home computer when playing games.

i tend to do defrags 2 times a month on my home computer and 2 times a week on my servers.

Nice i will have to stick on the gd old defrag, its free and got nothing to lose lol.



Not just for me but for anyone else who has the problem also, nice tips to keep my system running smooth everyday then

OK pomps happy with the Simple version

Matty you can now go technical

What services do you switch off ?
And Why

Why do motherboards still have memory hole at 16MB? Why does Windows XP still have Media Player 5.1?

Its because they dont instantly drop something, it can take them years, decades even to remove software. A lot of the legacy features found in software are due to lazy coders. Its not just Windows, the brand new cPanel 11 has "Addon Scripts (Depreciated)", it was replaced a few months back by something called cPaddons, yet the old service is still in there, even though you cant use it anymore.

And sure, defrag does make a very slight difference. But as proven by my HP, the difference is so negligable its really not worth it.

Im talking about web servers, because you need to remember they have a much higher I/O load then any home machine, if a server that is 10x more likely to suffer fragmentation of files doesnt get defragmented and doesnt slow down, why should a home user be doing the same thing for no gain??

Defrag "can" make your system very slightly faster, but its not worth the time it takes. And Windows Help files are merely there to explain what defrag is intended for, and they themselves are legacy and many of the articles are years out of date.

I dont make this shit up either, its from personal experience, as a Windows NT technician a few years back, a personal user of Windows NT for almost 10 years, a user of 3.1 and 9x previous to that and as someone who is involved in the server industry.

If you are so certain it makes the world of difference, why isnt my laptop running bog slow, the amount of file changes this bitch has had in the last few months is silly, and why wasnt my HP before I defragged it (the OS was 5 years old install in March) and why was the difference in speed negligable??

Ye get more speed and performance by going into MSCONFIG and ensuring there are no rogue services starting up with Windows that you dont want.

Note to myself : Never ever say Go Technical to matty lol

such little memory?
What services do you switch off ?
And Why

This topic makes no sense unless you can advise
members what services can be turned off?

I cant advise users as to what service they can turn off as they can damage their systems if they turn something off that they need, that they use.

It depends on their setup and what thier using the pc for and what services are used by the programs on their PC.

In the past whilst playing about and finding out what does what, I have turned services off on my HP that have kackered me internet connection, I have also turned the wrong service off before today and had to fix Windows via the command line to get it to load up again.

There is always a way to say, just turn off things like terminal, because 99% of people never use it, but some programs still make use of silly outdated things like this lol. If I were to write out a list and give instructions on how to do it etc, and then it messed up someones PC in whatever way, it comes back on me then, and its not something I will risk.