Please note that the "map" is a diagram and not to scale in any way. It cannot be read to be giving even near-exact layout details, much in the same way as Becks Maps work.
I think you are incorrect to suggest we could actually concieve the layout of the tunnels from this map, if its not made to scale, then it means quite that, none of the locations or tunnel sizes are drawn to scale.
You cannot win with a map that isnt drawn to scale, they are drawn solely for simplicity rather then accuracy.
They are designed to help someone navigate from one area to another, rather then to help someone work out where a certain location is in relation to other unlisted features.
Although the tunnels drawn are not to scale, it looks like it all matches up?
The exit at brow road, the shaft by the circle thang on the hill, the main entrance, and possible entrance in the garden of the house?
Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts. Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.
got it stuck inbetween a door (when the door slipped trapping it)and sqaushed the lens back into the camera on an angle. I took a few more shots with it but don`t think the quality will be any good. I`ve been thinking of buying a new one anyway but not under these circumstances, lol
If you moved all the earth away there would be a sheet of metal about 10mm thick, in the rock face, This had been "opened" by someone with a gas torch.
As you went in there was a wall a few feet in that you could go either side of and then carry on down the tunnel, further down the tunnel you could see the vent that is on the top of Bidston hill. There isn't anything e;se of real note in there.
It was quite boring inside and we stopped going there when the local smackheads started using the place to shoot up and people started dumping rubbish in it and setting it on fire.
Whelans reply to couldnt find it on the top of the hill?
All I remember is it was a brick building about 12ft square with a concrete roof somewhere in the area?.. problem is it was so long ago it may well of been removed and like you say totally overgrown
Sounds like Jonah's Find.
ref : filled in shafts
I have at last spoken to someone that has been inside the tunnels 10 years ago! It's a start! He went in with a group through the Hoylake Road entrance as the local scallies had dug a big hole. As you can see in the photo it's been filled by a lot of bricks and concrete. Someone has started it off again. He said that the shelter is on different levels and goes as far as Flaybrick cemetary and Bidston Hill. There is a ventilation shaft on Bidston Hill. He climbed up the ladder and couldn't get out as the council put concrete over the cover. The concrete was broken up at a later date so the council filled the shaft with sand. It's about 30ft down to the tunnels. The other ventilation shaft is on the corner of Worcester Road and Boundary Road 10ft from the substation door, now grassed over. That was also covered in concrete and the shaft filled with sand! Odd thing to do, but it stops anyone getting in. I am waiting for other info at the moment as I am quite interested. I will see if I can go across to the Wallasey Town Hall as the plans are kept there. There is one point inside were there is a large metal door and one person mentioned the sound of running water behind it! Don't like the sound of that. All the fittings and fixtures inside have been smashed up unfortunately, although some large fans and pumps remain. *UPDATE EDIT* The large metal door is at the end of a corridor leading underneath Hoylake Road. It is thought it leads onto more of the complex, possibly another entrance further down towards Tesco. (or old Bidston Steel site if anyone remembers it)
I wish the council would open them up together with the Tranmere Tunnels and also tell us a bit more about what is underneath Hamilton Square around the train station.
ref filled shafts
A friend of mine was also talking about what he called T-Caves as a kid, this was an entrance to the deep shelter I believe a ladder reaching down about 30ft, he could enter the cave but then there were large iron doors which had been covered in concrete plus the large red brick house on the hill is very secluded and from what i remember the owners didn't take kindly to people near their house. I will try and get a photo of one of the ventilation hatches on top of the hill, another friend has pointed out an area where he remembers it is, I have a good idea where it is too but I think there will be 30ft of sand of something like that underneath it. Plus I will remember to put old footwear on next time. Though I certainly wouldn't relish knocking at the house on the hill, they'd probably shoot you with a blunderbuss first then ask questions later.
ref got in
Hi everyone, a facinating site, just had to join and give my twopence worth regarding the tunnels under bidston hill.... I have been down them when I was younger. We managed to get through a damaged brick ventilation shaft up on the hill.
most of 28 days is focusing on the tranmere tunnels.
With rgeards to gaining access, I believe we should take another look at the shaft we have found on top of the hill, do some more investigation into it, as its true we have only scratched the surface. This needs to be done PRIOR to any entry attempt involving any access point. We also need to do more research on both the house entry point and the possibility of a Brow Rd entry point prior to an entry attempt.
But as for an actual point of entry, the only one I believe we can consider channeling our time and resources into right now, based upon what we have found so far ourselves and the evidence/findings of others on 28dl, is the main entrance.
Look at it as though we have bitten onto the main entrance, we have sunk our teeth into it, and there is a distinct possibility we can complete the job and attain access.
There isnt any other entrance, be it a proper entrance or a shaft, that I know of, that we have sunk our teeth into it and we have a real likelyhood of being able to attain access, based on the current evidence and findings.
The shaft at the top needs more investigation, but it's because of this reason that it can't yet be considered the primary target for gaining entry to the tunnels.
After the war it was a real problem for the police because if someone got in there and got into trouble there was very little chance of them being found - this was a structure that could house 3,000 people and it was totally dark.
![[Linked Image]](http://photowirral.com/newsig.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/13143/filename/sig.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/13362/filename/rant0000.gif)
![[Linked Image]](https://www.images.wikiwirral.co.uk/forum/2011.jpg)
