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its clearer to me mark, cheers.

I dont go on 28dl, i leave you guys to do that, i just discovered the thread and left it as that lol

I think you guys should work on the one on bidston hill, take a look see if you can see one at brow road. But as Matty says, the main point of entry (unless its discovered that the one on bidston hill is clear and easily accessible) is the main entrance.

however, it is exposed and most likely kids in the area will pick up on it then everyone will be round.

So best idea is to stick with bidston hill where its out the way and if you dont get anywhere with that or the other possible vent/entrance at brow road, go back to the main entrance?

It's a risk you take no matter where its done Joe. I pretty much guarantee you that if we managed to find a 30ft shaft, or indeed dig out the sand from a 30ft shaft, it wouldnt be long before someone else comes across it, maybe even a matter of hours depending on how our luck is.

This isnt going to be something that we can open up, and then keep as our own, once opened, it will be abused within a matter of days, and within a matter of weeks it will be completely closed off again.

Thats why we need to get in, get some shots, explore etc, and get out. Its not going to be a trophy, its most likely going to be a once in a lifetime thing.

And nothing changes the fact that right now, only one realistic point of entry exists, other then those dreams we all have of finding a shaft with a ladder and going down and it all being plain sailing.

The other thig I would be worried about, is leaving a 30ft deep hole in the middle of Bidston Hill. Its hardly safe to say the least, hence the reason its supposedly been filled in.

theres absolutely no way we are gonna dig 30 foots worth of sand out of a 2 nhalf - 3 foot wide hole!

Main entrance is the only option, look at the reality of this guys please

We would have to use a hand spade for a start & pass the sand up in bags or sumink! Not only would it take all day but it would knacker us bigtime

My sentiments exactly. Obviously we need to find our for ourselves whether its filled or not.

But there is no evidence that anyone was down there in June and the only evidence we have is that it has been filled in.

Needless to say, if it is filled in, we have neither the experience or equipment, never mind the time and space to dig out 30ft of sand.

People walk on the hill, we would be noticed.

Thats not to mention the issue of safety, I aint going to be digging (and I dont think anyone else should be either) without proper safety equipment and harnesses etc. It would be nigh on impossible to do the job safely.

Its okay at 6 and 7 feet, but as you go deeper its becomes more and more dangerous, and we dont even know what condition the walls of the shaft could be in!

Its best left to be considered as a last resort. But I will add, the shaft we have found should deffo be investigated further before it gets placed onto the back burner.

yes, i`d hate to imagine just how much sand it took to fill it, we`d be adding an extra hill to the landscape, lol
*big moles round here*

Lmao, its funny, but its also true.

30ft of Sand is Hear say?
None of us seen any sand on Bidston Hill...

Reference to is is only "A friend said"


Reality being also getting out of a hole at entrance 1

We have to at least check out the one on the hill
and then left without any options turn back to the main
entrance as we will be sure its that way or no way in.

I agree, we do have to take this seriously, for example::
has anybody thought of the entrance being re-blocked whilst we`re in there due to some "joker" that may see us gain entrance?




Hmmm, yes, i have to admit , i am automatically presuming/beliving the sand fill theory.
Its well worth checking out.

Yes, I was speaking to Pomp about this the other day. I suggested to him at the time, that we would have to split into two groups, 50/50.

One group would have to remain outside and the other group can enter and have x amount of time. Then its vice versa.

This is the only feasable way of doing it, unless there are some people who don't want to enter the tunnels.

Mark, I havent said we shouldnt investigate it.

We all very well know the evidence for making an entry to the main entrance. But other then moving a few remains of brick walls which in all honesty, revealed nothing, and 10 minutes spent looking, I can't see how you can say this is now our main target for an entry point??

Also, yes its all hearsay, but atm we have to CONSIDER and take onboard everything we are told about these tunnels, and seriously take into account the fact that the stories could well be true.

None of us have any idea ourselves, and I am pretty sure that there ARE people out there who do know what happened when it was closed off, people who have attempted to make an entry in the past and found out things that we havent as yet.

Therefore I am inclined to believe these statements moreso then our own "thoughts" which have no evidence, other then on the basis of what we want to see.

Hmmm, although i haven`t seen the other entrance/exit, tbh i would much rather use the main entrance anyway as i think it will be safer unless we are taking absailing equipment with us, lol.

Hence my seemingly random mountaineering point before lmao.

People probably didnt have a clue what I was on about

As I said, the main entrance would be the door, but the vent shaft is well worth investigating further.

As it may be simply a case of move a couple of bricks and soil, there may be ladders leading down - much easier than trying to get through hole in a steel door.

Well I know for a fact I wouldnt be going down a 30ft shaft without some quality safety gear no matter how easy it looked.