This is about a Pub in the North End of Birkenhead that has the Nick Name of "The Blood Tub" which is passed on and passed with the same reasoning for why its called the Blood Tub..
The Normal storey goes that it was that Rough all those years ago that there were that many fights a night they had a bucket that participants would spit blood into after a fight. This was supposedly out side the door, which could actually be true in its own rights. But the meaning of the Blood Tub goes further back to the 20's 30's
The Meaning of the Blood Tub All thoses years ago,there used to be a Pig farm down the road (See Red Arrows) and pigs would be slaughtered there etc for market. Now at the end of the shift the Men Working there would just finish there shift and walk down the raod as they were? No showering or anything then, and into the local pub. Once in there they would hang there blood covered aprins over a Tub and lone behold after a period of time the blood from the killing would run off and into the tub.
Hence the Blood Tub as it would be the main drinking hole for those workers.
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Nice one, how uncanny, i was going to ask if anybody had a piccy of these buildings (3)! I heard it was a pretty rough place and the police were scared to go in there. Also if you had a car nobody would dare park in there because it would get trashed. 3).Apperently they were flats or summink? 3).Does anyone know what they were called?
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The buildings to the left of number 3 where Dock Cottages by all accounts not a nice place to live they where built to house the dockers and there family's in 1844/47. They consisted of blocks lettered A-J excluding I for some reason.The buildings that house the blood tub where known as stanley buildings .The Blood Tub its self was originally named The Graving Dock Hotel but was always called the The New Dock Hotel.there are several stories of where the name Blood Tub came from and all very plausible but the one i like the best is that because of the roughness of its patrons and the free flowing of drink there were inevitably lots of fist fights(has much changed)so the land lord at the time placed a bucket /tub for the brawlers to spit blood and teeth in to this some times would not be emptied for weeks and would quite often overflow. The cottages were eventually pulled down in 1937/40 to be replaced by ilchester gardens known locally as ilchester square which was ill fated and only lasted a handful of years it was then grassed over to make the area that is still there now :>
It all makes perfect sense expressed in dollars and cents ,pound shillings and pence
I am so pleased i started this, the info is amazing. seeing that picture or the rows behind the pub reminded me of a dream I had when staying there. I dreamt that whilst travelling round there on a bus (bear with me this was a dream) round the roundabout heading down town, I looked over tyhe grassed area and seen those flats being pulled down. when returning to my aunts who is the source of much info (and 147 years old) i mention this and she asked what they look like. so i told her they were tall and had letters on the side, odd thing after reading one of these threads isthe only letter i seen was the letter I. ironically the excluded one!! wierd. Even stranger when this was 16 years ago and she told me the was pulled down at the start of the second world war. must stop eating cheese before bed lol
more seriously a massive thanx to all with this so far cant wait to see were this goes.
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I need you to look at this picture. Next to Number 1 is where the "Old Blood Tub" Stood. If you look closely you can see that its set back from Tyrer Street.
Now look at the new Picture which is sitting almost on Tyrer Street and Stanley Road. The Red Arrows show where this picture was taken from.
------- Okay hopfully you can also see that the "New Dock Hotel" Is not in its original location, and after speaking to my uncle i now have some light to send on it.
First you have to understand what happened in that area.
The "Dock Hotel" was bulit along side the Dock Cottages. After the Dock Cottages were pulled down for Illchester Square the "Dock Hotel" was rebuilt where we see it to day even after the rest of Illchester square was pulled down.
---------------- The Blood Tub was as i explained further up the hill if you like and at the time was probably owned by the Birkenhead Brewery. Plans were in the making to pull down the "Dock Cottaages" to be replaced by illchester square. Apparently the Brewery came to some agreement, that they would allow the old Building to be demolished on the understanding that the Brewery could buy the corner and flats above.
So that's what happened. And the "Dock Hotel" was re-built, and now i'm wondering if this could be the reason for it being called "The New Dock Hotel" New being because its new??
The Flats above were used for the Brewery and were rent free for ex-managers or Brewery Employee's that were time served. The First Floor out of the 3 would be for the current Manager with an internal stair way to that level. (No longer Exists)
We were not sure when Ownership from "Birkenhead Brewery to Higgsons Brewery" happened.
So the "Blood Tub" You see to day is not the original. When it was part of illchester square complex there were 3 shops facing Tyrer Street, A Chippy, news agents and somthing else.
The Blood Tub its self was originally named The Graving Dock
The Dock Hotel was never called the Graving Dock.
The Graving Dock was another pub in Beaufort Road on the corner of Tyne Street. It became derelict and was demolished in the 1980's. It was also known as "Shiela's cottage" after the landlady who ran it.
The Blood Tub pub was certainly a place where many a fight took place. My dad went there and he wasn't afraid of a punch up or two. Also take into account that a lot of the young men in the area did boxing at school or for the local church clubs, (Holy Cross being one my dad fought for as a boy) it is easy to see how punch ups were not feared and occured a lot.
Not sure about where the name came from exactly but it was definitely a tough place.
Anyone know for certain what is going to be built on the site of the station road houses opposite the blood tub? I heard a official car park for B-Head north train station.
A McDonalds - to make local meal times a bit easier. There is some truth in this actually - they did plan to put one on the corner of Stanley Rd and Ilchester Rd opposite St James Church but the Council said No No No.
I heard about that a good few years ago, heaven help me walking home after being on the lash with a mcdonalds and a cash point in walking distance haha.
My dad informs me it was actually KFC who put in the planning application not Macadee's. They wanted a drive-thru. Sunday lunch sorted - can even go in the car, save energy.
good pics,i got off the train last night and walked past the blood tub,there was some fella curled up in a ball outside singing his head off(leathered) tried to help him up but he told me he was happy an to pass him his wallet an piss off so i did lol
It all makes perfect sense expressed in dollars and cents ,pound shillings and pence
lol. I was told Charlie had been warned and told to remove the flag but it`s still flying even though it is looking rather threadbare and weather worn.ha.
"Its gone into a sh*thole??" It WAS A sh*thole wasnt it?? Just another landmark for our glorious council to knock down!! Have to keep an eye on my shed, looking a bit shabby, might wake up one morning with a compulsary purchase slapped on it, then where will i keep my trowels??????
"Its gone into a sh*thole??" It WAS A sh*thole wasnt it?? Just another landmark for our glorious council to knock down!! Have to keep an eye on my shed, looking a bit shabby, might wake up one morning with a compulsary purchase slapped on it, then where will i keep my trowels??????
Council contractors are currently using a cherry picker to knock glass out of the windows of the flats on the Stanley Road side to prevent glass from falling onto people. They will probably board the windows from the inside.
The building was broken into over the weekend but the building control dept. have inspected it and are going to secure it.
That fire truck (carmichael) doesnt belong to the council, it belongs to a roofing/steeplejack company in Birkenhead, cant remember their name!! I drove that on several occasions as we used to repair the Hydraulics! Got bollocked by the tunnel police once for taking it thru the Birkenhead tunnel, but only AFTER i had paid thru the tolls!!!! Had great fun sending the depot gimp up the top (100ft) and leaving him there!! Police had to come on several occasions and tell us to stop playing with the sirens when we worked on it!!!
Sorry mate, but until its a pile of rubble (for the kids to throw at passing cars/people!!) it will never improve, so it hasnt even progressed to the eyesore stage yet!!
You can always tell how good your mob's going to be by the amount of young ones who turn up. Judging by the contingent of Juniors gathered outside The Tub's off-licence, aggressively smoking Number Six and flicking baby fringes out of their eyes, we're going to have a fook of a good crew today. I let on to Billy Powell and a couple of the other little urchins and head on inside The Dock public house, Ilchester Square, Birkenhead, locally known as The Bloodtub, there to meet with the esteemed gentlemen of The Pack.
The Pack are Tranmere Rovers' away crew and a splendid bunch they are, too. Today I shall be joining them in an excursion to Wrexham for one of the biggest dates in the footballing calendar. Today is the First Round Proper of the F.A. Cup, a time for every ramshackle club from Hartlepool to Exeter to start harbouring dreams of brief encounters with the giants of soccer. Hereford against Newcastle. Colchester against Leeds. Every year the Cup throws up an unlikely combination and every year one of the underdogs forces an upset. Who knows what might happen if we got drawn against Tottenham or Villa or someone? Certain mayhem.
But let's not get too misty-eyed about the Romance of the Cup. While most of us can work up an impressive frenzy for a scrambled equaliser at Rochdale, we don't follow Tranmere for their progressive, free-flowing football. Our satisfaction comes from earning our rep as the nastiest little crew in the Third, and for us the magic of the F.A. Cup is that it never fails to deliver the ag. The First Round in particular always means trouble. Whether it's Hyde United or Leek Town, everyone's mobbed up for the Cup.
Even Wrexham. I've seldom known a game so eagerly anticipated as this local spat with despised woollyback foes, Wrexham. They hate us with the proper, decent, resentful fury of a serf who loathes his oppressor, but we just hold them in contempt as an underclass - a Birmo-wearing, feather-barnetted sub-species who pronounce the 'W' in their name when they're trying to leg you. It can be hairy, sometimes, being outnumbered by hordes of inbreds in places like Mansfield, but there's nothing more calming than hearing them speak. There's no way you can be hurt by someone who calls you 'youth', and when Wrexham come charging at you, arms stretched out as wide as they'll go, screaming 'Wuh-reck-sem' at full, red-faced force, you know you're going to have a laugh. We thought we'd lost them for good when they gained promotion last season, leaving us with only Chester and Crewe for local grudge games. But here we are. Back again to torment them. There's going to be murder. So it's worth the excursion to Birkenhead North just to meet up with the crew, even though I could've just got on at Neston. None of them really know where I live, other than it's out of town - not even Elvis - but I could've easy made up an excuse for jumping on there. But that's not the point - not all of it, anyway. You want to be there, in the thick, from the o£
It's just gone eleven when I step into The Tub, but some of the heads look like they've been here hours. Surveying the pub I immediately feel a rush of pride - this mob'd give anyone a run for their money. Marty O'Connor, shaven ginger bullet-head nodding to The Stranglers on the jukey. Baby Millan, fresh-faced Stanley merchant, joking with a couple of Saturday girls from Park Hampers. Eddie Spark and John Godden arguing with Batesy about Secret Affair and The Glory Boys. Elvis, shockingly thin, greets me with his irony-laden grin, eyes screwed up, looking like a technicolor Bryan Ferry in his livid purple box leather. Flicking and blowing at his monstrous plum-dyed wedge, Elvis beckons me to the bar.
'A'right, Carty. State of Batesy rowing about the fucken Mods. Even fucken Wrexham are wearing parkas these days. Fucken beauts.'
Elvis and I are perhaps the most fashion-obsessed of The Pack, which is a pretty fooking well-dressed crew by anybody's standards. Most of us have wedges or side-partings and wear Samba or Stan Smith trainies, Lois jeans and cardigans. One or two of the older lads have still got BeeGee centre-parts and sheepies, but that's expected of blokes in their twenties. They like to take the piss out of us lot freezing to death in rainlashed away ends, but they've seen the way the girls flock around us wherever we go. We look the part, and everyone knows it. One time, Marty O'Connor brought a can of blue spray paint to the match and offered to spray our lips and fingers blue.
'What's the fucken problem?' he cackled, when we all started running from the drifting aerosol jet. 'It's Adidas paint. For that latest Odgie frozen look!'
Odgie. Marty favours the New Skin look. One minute Slaughter And The Dogs were asking where all the Boot Boys went, next thing we've got Sham 69 and a new breed of skinheads. It's pretty big with the diehard mob from the North End who still see Birkenhead as an old dockers' community. This crew hate Scousers, a prejudice not weakened by the latest bouts of trouble between Liverpool and Tranmere. It's doing everyone's swedes in that the Scousers still see us as Wools, no matter that we dress the same as them. Marty and Eddie Spark and a lot of the older lads can't understand why we want to look like Odgies. They'd prefer us all to be boneheads. I don't mind a few skins in The Pack, they always look evil, but our whole identity, the whole point of The Pack and the reason we've got this rep, is that we look and behave like no one else in this Division.
They haven't got a clue in the Third. Liverpool started the wedgehead look last season and, with us being so nearby, Tranmere soon had our own little mob. There's only really Stockport and Fulham who are on the case and even with them it's only a dozen, twenty boys at the most. But it's the ultimate going to places like Chesterfield dressed like this. They're a race apart. They clock the haircuts and they're straight on to us. The ritual never varies. There's always loads of them, tattooed up and shifters to a man. They wait outside the station and when we get off the train, about sixty of us, no noise, no scarves, they start walking round the forecourt with their hands on their hips, making these sort of girlie whooping noises. They really think that because we haven't got borstal tatts and three scarves each that we're going to be easy. And that we'll be cross that they don't like our gear. It's maximum joy, every time when we run in and pure give it to them. Their faces are too much. They do not know what is going on, and when the blades come out ... well, they're older and wiser by the time the sun sets. Tranmere are the only crew in the Third who go away by train and we're the only ones who use Stanleys - as Chesterfield and all the other knobheads now know.
'Make 'em leave 'em behind!'
'You what?'
'Serious. Make 'em take 'em off and leave 'em behind the bar. Can't be going to Wrexhan1 with fucken parkas on board. Make a holy fucken show of us.'
Elvis laughs.
'You tell 'em!'
We just get halves at Elvis' behest and stop by Batesy's table to josh him about his attire.
'Come 'ead, Batesy! Let's see it!'
'You wha'?'
'Come on, open wide!'
I lunge for his mouth. Batesy recoils.
'Koff, you beaus! fook's goin' on?'
Elvis is doubled up, laughing. I put one arm around Batesy and grip his lower lip with my thumb and forefinger.
'Come 'ead! We just wanna see your tats! Where is it? MO-D, isn't it? Fuckenell, Batesy, thought you was meant to be the Ace Face!'
Batesy grins. For all that he's a bit of a dullard he's got respect, he's a ferocious fighter and it's only lately that I've felt entitled to join in the piss-taking - not just with him, but generally. Batesy's in good spirits and tells us that some of the Legends, Casey and Ally Quinn and some of the older Woodchurch heads are considering coming out of retirement for this one, such is the lure of the Cup. Batesy's lack of guile is in no way disguised by his various speech impediments. Although he has the stutter pretty much under control, he can't distinguish between th, v and f sounds, and, worse, has a babyish inability to pronounce his r sounds. Thus did Port Fale wun like wabbits outside the Ficky Lodge back in August.
It transpires that The Tub has been open all night and Batesy launches into a highly involved and highly unlikely sounding tale casting himself and Ally Quinn as tireless Lotharios in a twos-up with Toothless Elsa, one of The Tub's glamorous barmaids. We all laugh raucously, neither believing Batesy's tale nor caring whether it's true. There's a brilliant atmos. Everyone knows it. Today is going to be an epic.
Me and Elvis stand by the door sipping our halves, watching all the little ones congregate outside the station. They look smart, miniature scals in cords, trainies and Adidas windcheaters. There's some good little ruckers there. Billy Powell's only about fourteen but he's been very useful on more than one occasion. Most of the Junior Squad - mainly the rats from the Ford and the Woodchurch - will get on at Upton. So with the firm we've already got here and allowing for a few to get on at Bidston, we're looking good for a crew of eighty-plus on the ten past twelve which should well be enough to do Wrexham - even on F.A. Cup day.
Already on board the train is Damien O'Connor, Marty's kid brother. He's walking up and down the coaches with an empty sweet jar, cadging bits of drink off the older lads for his now-traditional Pack Punch. So far in the jar he's got Carlsberg Special Brew, Bacardi, vodka, Scotch and, lending the concoction a thick, sickly density, a full can of Coke.
'Any contributions, gents?'
'You lot should lay off the ale,' says Elvis.
He's a fooking downer when he's like this, Elvis. When he feels like drinking it's cool, Jim Morrison liked a drink, name me one great artist -great- artist who didn't benefit from some form of consciousness-enhancing stimulus, blah, blah, blah. But when he's off the plonk, all boozers are cubbies, makes you sluggish, blunts your instinct for danger, etc etc etc. This common sense, incidentally, coming from the first boy I ever saw cut somebody, temple to top lip, with a Stanley craft knife. He's a loony, Elvis, but that's all part of his appeal.
'You'll be fucken useless by Wrexham.'
He might well say that, but some of us actually need a drink before games like this. The butterflies are already jumping and we're only just past Bidston. Elvis stands up, scrawny and completely arse-free even in the snuggest of Lois and delves inside his jacket.
'In fact .. .'
He pulls out a little paper wrap. I notice a drop of blood on his finger tip where he's nicked himself. I keep telling him to retract the blade when he's carrying- it causes havoc with the lining of your jacket. He unwraps the whizz.
'C'mere.'
Damien holds out the sweet jar while Elvis carefully tips half the wrap of pinkish powder into the vicious black mix. He whips out his Stanley and, much to the amusement of everyone around us, stirs the liquid to a frothy foment and hands it back to little Damien.
'If you're going to be mad you may as well know what you're doing.'
Damien grins and slopes away to the corner of the coach, where he tries to wedge himself in firmly enough to get a good slug of punch without the jolting of the train sending it all over him. He smacks his lips and winces comically. Elvis passes me the speed. I avoid the bloody bit where his cut finger's been dabbing.
'D'you see the Whistle Test?'
'Nar. Fucken fell asleep in me chair, waiting.'
Elvis leans forward, eyes alive with his own special madness.
'Ah, I can't believe you missed it, man. Joy Division. Completely out there. Curtis, man ...'
I nod my understanding, even though I didn't see this latest performance. Elvis and I saw Joy Division playing an Amnesty benefit at Eric's back in May. We'd mainly gone to see Kleenex and The Raincoats, all-girl bands who, Trots or not, might have been pleased to know that their record sleeves provided handshank fodder for many a lonely adolescent. But it was Joy Division who blew us away. Ian Curtis threw so much angst and demented energy into his show that he collapsed after four or five songs. They couldn't have been on stage more than half an hour, but it was completely stunning. And they just kept getting better. Just a couple of months ago we went to the Futurama in Leeds and, out of a line-up which included Soft Cell, The Human League, Echo And The Bunnymen and Ua, it was Joy Division that slayed us. Elvis and I often talk about a suicide pact played out to 'New Dawn Fades'.
Everyone cranes forward as the train pulls in at Upton, hoping for a good crew to supplement the fine mob already on board. Some sight awaits us. It's not just the usual urchins and robbers we were expecting, who're pushing forward on the platform, but a full-scale crew of Woody, too. There's some real heads there, Hardy, Kev The Man, Christy Byatt in a green beret, all pogoing madly and swatting each other with rolled-up newspapers. Hardy's wearing an eyepatch, which looks sound, even though there's fook all wrong with his minces far as I know. And there's a lad with a crutch, putting on a bit of a limp. A crutch or a couple of arms in slings always looks boss mixed up in the main body of the crew. I reckon that there's easy thirty of them, a comical sight next to the handful of silent ice-skaters who'll get off at Shotton for Deeside Leisure Centre. I push my way to the window for a better look and am immediately taken over by a woozy affection for the vast redbrick tower blocks of the Ford Estate on one side of the tracks and the stark white blocks of the Woodchurch on the other. Not for the first time do I find my butterflies replaced by a heady euphoria. I grab Damien.
'Give us a go on that before these swats get on.'
I take a slug of Damien's magic potion and lick my lips. I know that something's going to happen today and I know that I'm going to be right in there. More often than not I'll just go with the flow at aways, doing the minimum expected. I never run, obviously, but I'm not one for sticking my neck out too much, either. It's to do with protocol. There are people like Marty and John Godden who you look to to start the rows and, while there are times when you think they might be dragging their heels a bit, they're the Boys. It's up to them. I'm ever conscious of the fact that this is only the start of my third season with The Pack and I'm only just getting to be accepted. Sometimes, though, I can't help myself, I get this headrush, this mad adrenalin surge just comes over me, a delirious, fierce, loyal pride in The Pack. I feel like I'd do anything for them.
I can feel it now as the train jerks to a halt and I lick the residue grains of sulphate from my teeth. I'm going to make sure that everyone knows who I am today, not least these Woodchurch names getting on now. I nod to individuals I know to let on to, but who aren't regulars. The fantasy of the Cup and the fact that it's Wrexham has brought all kinds out. It's one hell of a crew, and I belong right here with the best of them.
Two lads we know from Eric's and the tunnel bus come and stand by Elvis and me. When I say we know them, all we ever say to each other is 'A'right'. Don't even know their names. We always call them The Spics, because they look a tad Latino. Portuguese, Elvis decided one night after too much homegrown at a Cabaret Voltaire gig. That was about the last time we really tried to talk to them. They're not actively unfriendly, Just silent - and quite psychotic in an o£ Danny Allen, a Scouse lad who came to live on the Nocky last summer, comes and joins the company.
'A'right, Paul.' He always calls me by my proper name, Danny, probably on account of having had to come into the office on official business one time. It's only a job to me, but it spooks the public. They think they'll never get out alive.
'Howdy, Danny. Cracker mob, eh?'
'Too fucken right, lad. These'd see off Liverpool, these would.'
He's always a bit wary about being from Liverpool and, since all the trouble started again, over-compensates by running the Odgies down at any opportunity. He's alright, though. Bit of a shithouse. I tried to get everyone calling him Danny Jekyll - he was always hiding - but it never caught on.
Its sad northend is going to be no more soon.. I know its a good thing in a few peoples eyes cause its home but in some all they here about the northend is bad but realise this if your a northender and proud good on you
Very sad indeed. I never had a drink in there, too scared by half even to go up the North End. It was a very scary place back in the '60's. But I will tell you this, if you ever made some mates up there you had some bloody good mates and they would be your mate for life. Goodbye Blood Tub and good bye North End.
I reckon the North End was at its worst in the mid 80's when the smackheads were all over the field injecting. It was known as Smack Hill in those days. In the 60's and 70's it had a bad reputation but was never as bad as people made out. I lived in Ilchester Square at the time and always wondered where all these stories came from.
The council were going to demolish the remaining houses but now they are being refurbished. Those newbuild flats by the church are bad as they have re-housed some of the idiots there (Apologies to the respectable people living there who I feel sorry for).
The River Streets estate is the quietest it has been for years now, and is certainly no worse than any other estate in Birkenhead.
I have a video channel on Youtube with pictures from 2005 and I will be adding more soon:
by the way, does anybody have any pictures of Ilchester Square? I know there were some taken by the Birkenhead News during the Coronation street parties in the early 1950s which some people bought. I did have some but a relative claimed them.
I went past the Tranmere Park last week (technically I didn't) but it is no longer there - it's been demolished Sad.
I took pictures of that before it was demolished and a lot of pictures of the other buildings along Church Road, some of which have now gone and the rest planned to go soon, including our works.
But thats another topic.
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According to this notice on the WBC website, the council are proposing to demolish the Kwik Save building opposite the Blood Tub as well. The Applicant for the new plan is Netto http://www.wirral.gov.uk/planning/webtables/20086556-01.gif
The original pub along with the dock cottages filled the triangle area from St James church down to the corner of STEWART Street and Stanley Road. then there was a piece of land between Stewart Street and Tyrer Street. When the pub and dock cottage where pulled down Stewart Street was built over and the new building which included the new pub ran from the corner of Tyrer Street up towards St James church and became Ilchester Square. Birkenhead North Station was originaly called DOCK Station.
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The Windows were removed / smashed by the demolition company, if you read back over this thread there is also a picture, we can only assume its to prevent squatters moving in.
Its due for demolition on the 4th Jan 2009 but will probably be a little longer but who knows.
The flats were called ILLCHESTER SQUARE. It was a really rough place but a lot of the families that lived there would give you their last penny if you needed it.
Before it gets demolished Would be interested in seeing photos or vid of the inside of the flats attached to pub Just to get an idea of what they were like inside
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It,s the first time that I have seen this thread. The Blood Tub used to be my favourite watering hole in the 1950,s. I used to be a fireman at Bidston Loco.All the lads from the shed used to call in there after work and get steamed up (in the bevvied sense) before heading home. The boss at that time was Eric Holt. The head barmaid was Mrs.Lil Jones, who lived in Laird St. Eric was great, He had an Irish Shilaleagh behind the bar, and if anyone started scrapping inside the pub, he had been known to lay them out with it.Scrapping was "Outside only".There were some real Hardmen who boozed in there,proper scrappers. If you did,nt bother them, they did,nt bother you.It was a great pub. Beer then cost 1/1d a pint.(5p in new money).A quid did you for 2 sessions. The Blood Tub was known throughout the World. That was because of all the Birkenhead lads who went to sea, and also all the foreign seamen who called in for a bevvy.I was in a bar in HongKong, in 1953; A Chinese guy heard my accent, then asked me "you Liverpool man?", I said "No, Birkenhead". He gave me a big grin and said " Ah Yes. Blood Tub .I know it.Itxxxxxxx good pub.Me in there many times".Then he told all his mates in Chinese about it, and the word Blood Tub was all I could understand.We all ended up bladdered as we drank to my old local. So that,s it. The awld Blood Tub is one of the most famous boozers in the World.I,ll be a sad man ,when I hear that it has bit the dust.Progress!! Who needs it??
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Thanks igor. Enjoyed your post. 'real' colourful accounts are SO interesting to me, much better than what the 'organic' historical accounts say. Thankyou
Demolition of the Blood Tub should be starting soon. Containers have been placed in the car park at the back and they should be fencing it off soon. Pictures Coming Soon
Interiors already half stripped mate, been UE`d and fully documented! Been well wrecked inside by the kids and copper robbers!! Should have been down ages ago but cellars were flooded and found aspestos inside, scaffolding is up first, then stripped out and then knocked down! Watch this space for interiour pics!
and thus the destruction of the north end's iconic figure has begun. i'm guessing some will miss the place whilst other will applause its death. but i had no idea the interiors was in such a state of disrepair. especially with the flooded basement (mind you maybe that why there's was a puddle nearby the celler access hatch every time i went past it)but Asbestos? how bad can it get.
i'm guessing some will miss the place whilst other will applause its death.
It's worth keeping a record of, as it has always been a landmark of the north end, plus it is the last remaining part of Ilchester Square. The actual building is absolutely solid, as there is a lot of reinforced concrete used in the construction. I look foreward to seeing the interior.
The film 'Awaydays' is out on Friday which includes scenes filmed inside the Blood Tub.
at least it's preserved forever in memories, films and photo's. if someone mentioned "north end" then the blood tub comes up instantly. it is indeed a special place. but sadly once again our useless and pathetic council want shut of it. erasing our heritage and slapping some fancy expensive apartments bang on top of it. it's bad enough the town hall's bieng sold!
One last memory, before my personal Theatre of Dreams gets demolished.There was a new barmaid there one time.A very good looking , Dark haired,olive skinned lady from over Wallasey. She was about 40 years of age. She could handle all the banter from the lads on the other side of the bar, no problem. She had a majestic chest!!. We were leaning over the bar gawping at her one day,you know, like yer do, and my mate Ronnie Lawton (from Laird Street), said, sorta jokingly " I bet they,re not real".Without hesitation, and with a big smile on her face, she whipped open her blouse, and there they were: Two of the biggest bazookas that we 20 year old men-about-town had ever seen.We were gobsmacked. Our Heroine then buttoned up, and carried on serving ale.Great Memories of a great pub.They don,t build them like that any more.(Either pub, or Barmaid).
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New Dock Hotel (Blood Tub) Does anyone know if it ever served as a hotel possibly only called a hotel to get past the serving on a Sunday laws that were about ages ago Maybe the Ilchester square remains attached to it belonged to the pub We know the 1st tier part above the pub was lived in by the manager recently
The Flats above were used for the Brewery and were rent free for ex-managers or Brewery Employee's that were time served. The First Floor out of the 3 would be for the current Manager with an internal stair way to that level. (No longer Exists)
We were not sure when Ownership from "Birkenhead Brewery to Higgsons Brewery" happened.
What is the small squarish building at the back of the flats I never looked at it It may be one of those electricty substations if so will that be demolished
That's a garage which had an 'up and over' door on it, and the pub toilets were either side of it. That part was built on after the demolition of the rest of Ilchester Square. I'm not sure what the back looked like originally, but I think it was just a wall and a back yard for the pub.
Just round the corner into Tyrer Street there were 3 shops. There was a Dairy type shop, a sweet shop and a chippy.
Looks like its had a re fit!!!! LOL All gone now, just clearing up to do, fill in the cellars and cover with soil / grass! Will look like nothing was ever there!
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