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Originally Posted by BMW Joe
I'd say have an explore see if we can find the exits on the outside - the shaft and the one on brow road?

Other than that, I can't see much more happening with them for now, unless we find more information, such as the possibility that the other underground tunnels are linked to it (perhaps through the part which looks undeveloped blocked up with sand?)


There isnt a Brow Road Exit its in the RODS.
I think that was us getting mixed up until the size of the tunnels was mapped.

I will try and dig out the picture where the Shaft Exit is,
yes where Whelan found the spiders nest.

One way could be would be to let off a smoke bomb
at the top of the ladder or something like that.
And smoke or odour could seep through.

O even them walkie talkies think that's if they
go through rock.

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I have been told that the tunnels link up.
Ive been told that there are tunnels under the observatory,
and awaiting for a book to be shown to me as its no longer
in print. Apparently this book covers all the tunnels around
the Wirral area I'm lead to believe.

But that book and info may take some time to come back to
me as in months or weeks who knows? But they do say there
linked etc... But all hear say at the moment. frown

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Originally Posted by BMW Joe
I think we should try and revisit in a year to see how tux is getting on lol
raftl

Nice pics Joe some there that we havnt seen before.
Well done

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Exit above the Shaft ?

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That is a man made hill.

1. The Trunk of the Tree is far too short.
2. Its pretty much a Rubble Hill.
3. Its out of sorts with the natural flow of the landscape.
4. Red Brick and Cement are present.

Its either this one or the other place.
I'm going to go for this one.

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Nice pics joe, gonna try and go through mine now, damn rooms like a computer factory at the mo due to me building 2 pc`s so please bear with me smile


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the only way I can think of finding the shaft exit without spending a fortune on equipment is using bluetooth. If it can go through concrete? Especially that thick?

But if theres a chance its thin enough, if someone has bluetooth on at the top of the ladder and someone on the hill tries to detect it, that might work?


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Sorry for the wait guys,been a bit busy with building pc`s, taking kids out and going to wedding and party, i`m knackered, fell asleep twice today, lol.
Not many decient pics i`m afraid but heres some anyway....
smile

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Entrance now (lfrom the outside in)
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I`m sure theres a room here>?
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Part of old loo, notice how the seat used to be stuck on?
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Joe at top of shaft
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Tux is keeping gaurd now :)
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Danger! In the 1st floor of the shaft peeps!
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Hi ho hi ho its off to....
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What the? looks like blood?
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good pics

lmao at first 1, i look like im doing the robot

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Been out and about with the GPS
I cant get google to make sense of the readings.
So if any one can pin them on a Google or Virtual Earth Map
it will be very helpful for the cause.

As in we can overlay joes map and have it all boxed off smile

You can now see where the Shaft Exit is smile

Enjoy.

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Possible Dog Leg exit? Bus Stop is just through the trees. Strangely the Soil Drops away.
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This whole area seems possible to be the Dog Leg Exit.
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Another reading GPS This one is favourite but its in-line with House 2 ? The Ground Drops away at least 3ft.
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In the same place as previous picture, but looking to the right, its the water running down the rock that has my attention. (Flooded Exit)
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The Picture says it all. The Observatory is Behind me.
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I've highlighted the Exit Point with a down arrow.
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From the Large Tree six normal walking steps. This is where we could hear kris and Totopop.
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I'm looking towards the "Cock Pit"
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The Sun has bleached out the Observatory. But the arrow shows you where it is.
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This should help anyone finding the spot from the "Cock Pit"
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GPS Readings at the Exit
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The Crutch is no longer there lol

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Originally Posted by Mark
The Crutch is no longer there lol


dont worry i have 2 here! was moving my shed and a massive slab fell on debbies foot breaking it in 2places withstupid . looks like we all been to hospital frown

ste i hope every think is ok mate. frown

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Bloody hell.

Everyone Get well soon wink

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Heres the map with your GPS Positions mark

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Excellent thumbsup

2 things

1. How did yu do it in google.
2. Can you overlay the map that matty got? Stretch is or what ever.


I@m going for my tea now as i'm still editing the tunnels topics.

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your gps is in the wrong position for the exit as the maps dont overlay correctly..see pic

my maps is sort of to scale, the leg of the main entrance should actually be a bit shorter though.

Ive measured the distance using google maps and using our measurements it should be 167.7m (or 550ft) from the shaft exit.

That puts it closer to the houses/bus stop but you dont have a pic of the GPS positions?

I just typed the gps positions in google maps +53.40469, -3.07311 e.t.c

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Where the exit should be according to measurements from within the tunnels

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