anyone know what pubs use to be on the ford or are still now? me and the misses have a dispute about a pub called the buccaneer i say that there was she says no! anyone out there help us thanks!!!
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Your right, she`s wrong! Bet that doesnt happen very often!!! Buccaneer stil there at the top of the BEECHWOOD estate as it is known now, if they havnt burnt it to the ground!
I think one pub got knocked down and replaced by houses when the estate got a 'facelift' late eighties or early nineties. AS a young lad I delivered papers, (from RSMcColl's) on the first few ave's for a while...rough as toast.
yes seen it not looking good? how many houses can you fit on there? whats open there now pub wise? would like to hear from anyone who lived in ford towers as i lived in the first one floor number 8 number 85,what a view at night it was so good could see as far as formby beach lighthouse!
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"is it because its was on the site of style number 7? "
Aye sort of,
If you go to Bidston Village and opposite St Oswolds church is a footpath towards the Beechwood between the houses. Before the Ford Estate and M53 were built this path went all the way accross to Noctorum (about where the pub is now) and there were 7 styles on the way - hence the path being called the 7 styles path and the pub remembers what was lost under the housing estate.
No wonder the Ford Estate was like Dodge City - 5 bl**dy pubs?? All I remember was being told to go nowhere near it lol. I laughed loudly when they renamed it.
Has anyone noticed that the new houses being built next to the 7 Styles have name plates on them claiming that they're in Oxton - Hmmm I think that's a little cheeky - Bidston, Noctorum or evan Upton at a push but Oxton is flipping miles away from there............
We live in the North End, and my missus calls it lower bidston!!!! SNOB.
LOL that rings a bell. We lived in Ben Nevis Rd., which is on the Tranmere Hall Estate (1920's). Definitely Tranmere; Higher Tranmere if you like, but not Prenton, which is what my mother always reckoned. Incidentally, the Rovers' ground; Prenton Park, is in Tranmere, which reaches as far as Woodchurch Rd./Storeton Rd. to the West.
I still get annoyed when places blatantly in Leasowe are called 'Moreton'. It's like there's still that negative stigma attached to us! Some of us are decent people, honest!
I still get annoyed when places blatantly in Leasowe are called 'Moreton'. It's like there's still that negative stigma attached to us! Some of us are decent people, honest!
Lol but a lot of older people just call it Moreton as it is a relativley new area in Wirral. But yes, i dont think that Oyster Pub helped your cause !
Chris, everybody use to say they lived in Prenton once they where in a house on the borough road side of greenway road. Tranmere always had a stigma to it for some reason, and lower tranmere more so than higher tranmere.
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There are good and bad wherever you live, like every estate before it, got a bad name, the Leasowe, Overchurch, Woodchurch and so on. Usually by people who had never been there. Its normally the few spoil it for the masses.
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Where the Beechwood Social clubs side entrance is look at the green fields opposite There used to be 4 blocks called Ford Towers I remember once going up the stairs between 10th and 12th floors and feeling the building sway very funny feeling
I think the Ford was relatively tame compared to some housing estates around the country - we heard quite a few horror stories about Beaumont Leys and Braunstone in Leicester. They'd send people there from other parts of the country if they were troublemakers. So in effect, putting into practice what Frank Field said - put them all together. Although he would like them to live in containers under the M53. How about we send a few to live in Priory Mews with you, Frank?
lived there between 1972 -80 Was ok and because you grew up there and were part of the community you knew everyone (also the few bad lads)so never had any real issues with the estate , only as it hit the 80's it did become a sort of no go area for a bit as drugs and weapons moved in and i remember reading somewhere about shotguns going off around the "towers" and not long after that ther was a big investment and cleanup ,the towers came down a lot of the maisonetts were demolished new roads added and even some of the houses were removed .
I still recognize the tell tail signs of what used to be and my old house is still standing on what was fairleaf way
Chris, everybody use to say they lived in Prenton once they where in a house on the borough road side of greenway road. Tranmere always had a stigma to it for some reason, and lower tranmere more so than higher tranmere.
Yes, I remember mother used to tell me that it wasn't safe to go to Tranmere (although my first school was Well Lane). We had relations who lived in Seymour St. & others on Olive Crescent, so the Tranmere connection was pretty strong.
I lived in Fairleaf way in the early 80's. Visited the Flats with my day when i was about 3yrs old can clearly remember it, live in Herondale Avenue (don't know if spelt right) in the late 80's and St Oswalds in the late 80's early 90's and i can rememeber how it use to look and how it is now weird. lol
I remember the Ford being built but i can't remember what areas families moved from. When i moved to the Woodchurch with my parents in 1957 from Watson St a lot of people from the same area got a house on the Woodchurch. Was it the North End ?
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I think they moved people from any where there was major (slum) or housing that had been in bomb areas during the war. I remember them even moving people from Liverpool to new estates out near Ellsmere Port, I went with a girl from Liverpool and she told there was a mass exodus. I had a mate who moved there from Water Board House on Borough Rd opposite the Plaza Cinema, his dad was the "Inspector of Water" or some weird title, I think there was some sort of pumping device there, not real sure. Anyway there name was Litton and his brother was some sort of councillor. MMmmm her comes the nurse, must be time to get back in the cupboard.......
I remember the Ford being built but i can't remember what areas families moved from. When i moved to the Woodchurch with my parents in 1957 from Watson St a lot of people from the same area got a house on the Woodchurch. Was it the North End ?
I moved to First Avenue in 1966 from the Woodchurch as did some others. There were quite a few from Birkenhead area ie Cathcart Street. Later they moved people from the North End into sixth to eighth avenue.
I remember the Ford being built but i can't remember what areas families moved from. When i moved to the Woodchurch with my parents in 1957 from Watson St a lot of people from the same area got a house on the Woodchurch. Was it the North End ?
I moved to First Avenue in 1966 from the Woodchurch as did some others. There were quite a few from Birkenhead area ie Cathcart Street. Later they moved people from the North End into sixth to eighth avenue.
I lived in Fairoak mews 71-84. That was right behind the Towers. We used to play in the lifts in the Towers and I don't know how many times we ran up and down them 12 floors. Oh my god! I even remember the key code to block 4, was 151!!! The estate had a terrible name from people who never lived there. I wish I could give my kids the freedom my parents gave us when we lived there. We had the biggest playground a kid could ever want, the woods and then Bidston Hill.
Dave2479 I think I know you. Did you have a dog called Sandy?
bert1 the photo you posted, I can't remember what that close was called but a remember a very tragic fire in a house.
I remember the Ford being built but i can't remember what areas families moved from. When i moved to the Woodchurch with my parents in 1957 from Watson St a lot of people from the same area got a house on the Woodchurch. Was it the North End ?
I moved to First Avenue in 1966 from the Woodchurch as did some others. There were quite a few from Birkenhead area ie Cathcart Street. Later they moved people from the North End into sixth to eighth avenue.
Are you still in First Ave??
No. I left in 1980 when I got married. But my Mum stayed there until 2000, when she passed away.
Pub called the 7 stiles because out there used to be fields which were known as the "7 stiles", also there were the Flat Lanes further out towards the Woodchurch. Up the top of Ford Hill used to be the Thermopylae Pass, so, from town us kids used to go through Birkenhead Park, up Bidston Road, through the Thermopylae Pass and on to the 7 Stiles and Flat Lanes. It used to be a day out and there were frongs, taddies and jacksharps in the cattle ponds out in them there fields. Loads of long grass with furry seed heads which used to tickle your legs as you ran across the fields. And......it was always summer.
Pub called the 7 stiles because out there used to be fields which were known as the "7 stiles", also there were the Flat Lanes further out towards the Woodchurch. Up the top of Ford Hill used to be the Thermopylae Pass, so, from town us kids used to go through Birkenhead Park, up Bidston Road, through the Thermopylae Pass and on to the 7 Stiles and Flat Lanes. It used to be a day out and there were frongs, taddies and jacksharps in the cattle ponds out in them there fields. Loads of long grass with furry seed heads which used to tickle your legs as you ran across the fields. And......it was always summer.
Mmmmm that brings back memories; I used to do much the same, except I'd get the bus to the top end of the Thermopylae Pass. Yes. it was always summer!
Where did you get those pictures from? My dad has got a white book Wirral 1876 -1976 marking some occasion, summit to do with the boundaries changing?? those exact photos are in that book, doubt there are many of those books around now.
Where did you get those pictures from? My dad has got a white book Wirral 1876 -1976 marking some occasion, summit to do with the boundaries changing?? those exact photos are in that book, doubt there are many of those books around now.
Birkenhead 1877-1974
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I think the old Birkenhead News ran a competition to name the pub in '68/'69 . Was it to do with the number of stiles between the farm on the site and Bidston village ?
The pubs on the Ford Estate, say from 1977; starting from Upton Road. 1 Seven Stiles. 2 The Windmill. 3 The Buccaneer. 4 The One O'clock Gun. 5 The Corsair. As a young man my father took me fishing for sticklebacks [small fish] in that area which is now the Ford Estate [Beechwood]. It is my knowledge that there were seven stiles that you had to cross - hence the name of the first pub.
I guessed that the Buccaneer would have been where the library is, the random little car park which is outside nothing off the road off Fender kind of suggests it was in that location.
Looks like the pub count is zero now, just been past the Windmill, it is now secured by VPS after what looks like an arson attack.
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