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_Ste_ #441922 8th Nov 2010 10:11am
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That 'roo riding, shrimp barbecuing ruthf is right...
In fact I agree with all of this topic. We can't say or do a lot of things now without offending someone and the blame is entirely down to that electrical, computer retailer...

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Oh I don't know bert,have you to go to Bradford ,Birmingham
,parts of Sheffield,Manchester you don't get an area called the curry mile in many places ,you would have a hard time in wondering if you were still in the once "Fair and Pleasant Land",what with the shops signs and dress suggesting your in some foreign land,we may have been kicked out of lots of countries that we once ran,but the children of these same countries appear to think 1: we owe them one,2:they liked what they saw and wanted more than the own country can give them.

As far as Londonistan is concerned,you only have to wonder where all the young Londoners have been pushed out to,I know Liverpool and Leeds seem to be the favoured places these young ones have gone to live in,

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Bloke in Sweden just been done for shooting foreigners, which you can't agree with, but then he is living in a city of which 40 per cent are of foreign extraction. There's one bloke who's flipped his lid obviously. As for UK, take a trip to the eastern side of Leicester and be prepared to be gob smacked.


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Back in the early '70's I used to go to Bradford a lot - mainly so I could ride on the trolleybuses (sad git). All the drivers and conductors were from India/Pakistan. Interestingly ALL were unfailingly polite, smiling and wore FULL uniform and took a pride in their appearance. Just as interestingly, if I had to use a motor bus, a lot of the crews were white, slovenly, no tie and wore the ticket machine on the hip like a bleedin' cowboy !

The trolleybus crews obviously had pride in the job, a trolleybus takes a LOT more skill to drive. A work ethic thing ?

Even then, I used to joke to a mate about seeing a white man across the street and shouting "Snap". Tut-tut. Very non-PC nowadays.

Maybe another generation has grown up now - both coloured and white, and both seem to think the world owes them a living.


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Originally Posted by Pinzgauer
Maybe another generation has grown up now - both coloured and white, and both seem to think the world owes them a living.


How true frown


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I can't say any of this bothers me at all, as it usually stems from the hatepress like The Daily Mail. I'm born British from German family and I have an Asian missus, but being British doesn't really mean a lot to me apart from lousy weather and people obsessed with football, and a populace that only seems to be bothered about fickle little things that an 'expert' spent a couple of hours writing about in a newspaper.
Brittania was removed in 2008, but the coins still have the Queen on it, the notes have the people who contributed in the past. I can't see the country losing any of it's identity, we still are still world leaders in many things like education, science, engineering and industry which is pretty much what made the country matter centuries ago. I can understand why people think the country is 'going down the pan' (copyright Daily Mail) if they think that an icon on a coin really matters.


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Im not sure is what has gone that bothers people, but the reasons for it going....

...if those reasons are indeed true think


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As mentioned previously there are lots of places who have a large immigrant populace, thats understandable, people who come here from abroad are bound to be wanting to settle near to relatives and people similar to themselves, not forgetting thats where they were directed to for industries and whatever skills they had. The British do exactly the same, Would it be more acceptable if 1 immigrant family lived in every hamlet, that way perhaps it wouldn't be as noticable to some. What are immigrants trying to do, as i see it and always have done, they are trying to make a better life for themselves and their children, had i had a harder life i might have even considered emigrating myself, so i can't knock them for that.


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I think we are loosing sight of the topic of this thread, that a national symbol may have been discontinued to avoid insulting such immigrants.

...when in Rome and all that.....


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StuyMac #442005 8th Nov 2010 3:15pm
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Also, and I hate to stay off topic after my last post smack

Yes, immigrants may come over to improve their life, and they may be willing to do tedious jobs for minimum wage, but these are jobs UK residents on the dole are rejecting!

In turn the tax payer pays for these people to sit on their arses whilst immigrants are taken to do the jobs.

Tougher immigration laws are needed to only allow those with additional skills, and get those on the dole doing more tediuos jobs to save taxpayers money!


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The thing about immigration, you get loads of ex-pats in Spain who expect the Spanish to speak English. I know loads of people round here who are livid about foreigners taking all the jobs, yet they're on the dole, it doesn't make sense. They are the crappy jobs the English won't do! raftl You always see Asians delivering those leaflets through your door which pay about 45 quid per 2000 deliveries.


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The thing about Ex-pats in Spain though, is they generally go over there to retire, or at least have enough money to support themselves without saturating the Spanish job market and depriving spaniards of jobs.... think

Fair enough, there are some ex-pats that go over in the summer, for summer jobs in bars, but when was the last time you heard of someone moving to Spain to flip burgers or sort household waste....


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The Summer workers tend to work in clubs and bars as most English holidaymakers (hoodilums!!) like a brit voice serving them, same in Greece!
I am NOT racist, even if my first post swayed that way, just fed up with the way this country is going!
I have lost a lot of friends, especially my sis/brother in law and kids (went to OZ 2 yrs ago!!) to emigrating abroad. Their reason in ALL cases is this country has nothing to offer them and they want a better way of life for themselves and mainly their kids!
As mentioned, we have lost a lot of our heritage, industry, culture and tradition so as not to offend others.....But to be perfectly honest i recon fook `EM!!!!


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If I moved to Pakistan, would I be able to have a Christian church built, send my children to an English speaking school & get on benefits?

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Would you fook.....


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