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Lucy Letby
by diggingdeeper - 16th Dec 2024 6:16pm
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It's a school rule... Remove it or fook off for fucks sake.
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It's a school rule... Remove it or fook off for fucks sake. 
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At 12, it shouldn't be pierced at all. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have children! It goes through me (pardon the pun) when I see babies with their ears pierced - it's tantamount to child abuse IMO.
I'm with the school on this one. I went to a Grammar school and remember being sent home for having the wrong colour bag. They were strict on rules and it did me no harm.
I pierced my own ears when I was 14 in the library toilets with a safety pin and cork because my Mum wouldn't let me have them done. She went ballistic!
I got my nose pierced just before I started my nurse training in the 80's and was told I had to take it out. My arguement was that they didn't ask the Indian girls to take theirs out and was told that theirs was for religious reasons so it was different. It made me bloody angry but rules are rules so it was taken out during work hours (sort of - I kept the stem of a nose stud hidden in it so that it would stay patent and then pushed it out with a full stud when I got back to the nurses home).
At 12, you do as you are told - end of story. If the mother or child doesn't like it, then off to another school you go. Only trouble is, the child will only learn that if you kick up enough of a stink you will get your own way. Not a good lesson for the rest of her life!!
School rules sometimes aren't fair - but then life isn't either.
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At 12, it shouldn't be pierced at all. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have children! It goes through me (pardon the pun) when I see babies with their ears pierced - it's tantamount to child abuse IMO.
I'm with the school on this one. I went to a Grammar school and remember being sent home for having the wrong colour bag. They were strict on rules and it did me no harm.
I pierced my own ears when I was 14 in the library toilets with a safety pin and cork because my Mum wouldn't let me have them done. She went ballistic!
I got my nose pierced just before I started my nurse training in the 80's and was told I had to take it out. My arguement was that they didn't ask the Indian girls to take theirs out and was told that theirs was for religious reasons so it was different. It made me bloody angry but rules are rules so it was taken out during work hours (sort of - I kept the stem of a nose stud hidden in it so that it would stay patent and then pushed it out with a full stud when I got back to the nurses home).
At 12, you do as you are told - end of story. If the mother or child doesn't like it, then off to another school you go. Only trouble is, the child will only learn that if you kick up enough of a stink you will get your own way. Not a good lesson for the rest of her life!!
School rules sometimes aren't fair - but then life isn't either. ABSOLUTELY. If she is not taught to abide by the rules at that age,then she never will!!!
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This kid is gonna be pushed from school to school, if Mum disagrees to conform, so well done Mum-spouting your daughters 'human rights' YET neglecting her need for a basic education!
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IMO the Mother is Counter Transfering her own un-resolved issues with Authority. God help her kids!
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Schools are far to soft on pupils these days, a good stroke of the cain never did me any harm - and yes at Hilbre High, otherwise the teachers get treated like dirt and they need some form of deterent.
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Schools are far to soft on pupils these days, a good stroke of the cain never did me any harm - and yes at Hilbre High, otherwise the teachers get treated like dirt and they need some form of deterent. Cane and I beg to differ. Usually the cane was administered on a regular basis to the same children. Look up any old school log books and you will see the same names appearing time after time, so it obviously didn't deter them. It could also be a very unjust punishment simply because many times a whole class could be caned because of the actions of one pupil who wouldn't or couldn't admit liability. I would also suggest that certain teachers got off by hitting children and I remember one particular teacher who seemed to go into a trance whilst hitting boys with a plimsoll. There is no excuse for violence whatsoever in school and certainly not by adults on children. Back on topic, why the hell does anyone want to mutilate themselves with any kind of piercing. The emperor has no clothes on people. i.e. Most of it looks bloody ugly.
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Whilst I agree that rules are rules, and must be adhered to, I cant but help think there is a bit of hyprocrisy going on at the school.
If they are banning nose piercings, then there should be no lower lips allowed, no eyebrows allowed, ears??? and a teaching assistant should definitely NOT be allowed to sport a nose ring!!!
If the case is such that people are sporting lower lip piercings and that is going unpunished, and a teaching assistant has a nose piercing on display, then banning this child is pure hyprocrisy and the school need to sort their policy out and get their house in order before sending someone home in this instance.
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never mind "fight the school" and/or call the local paper over it! You'd be surprised how much parents 'know better' than educational professionals these days. They even think they know their child's academic perfomance better than a teacher who may have taught them for at least 4 years. A teacher knows what level a pupil should aim at if they are to get a grade that is realistic to their ability. But some parents refuse to believe that their child is only capable of C or below. Its just a part of the 'know your rights' movement up against common sense and professional experience.
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I read about this today. Isn't Human Rights one of the most abused rights going? Ridiculous!
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Seriously think this is the problem with teens who won't conform to rules or laws. Parents who will not enforce decisions made by those in charge. These are the teens who will go through life thinking they don't have to conform. I clearly remember being on detention for not wearing my hat - which I had genuinely forgotten. Having my blazer confiscated (in Winter) because I had pushed my sleeves up. I learnt the lesson. Wake up parents, you're sending the wrong message.
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Should have added that for every kid that goes off the rails there are dozens who don't. They have responsible parents in my opinion and in turn mature into responsible adults.
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Sounds like the mother needs a good slap!
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Whilst I agree that rules are rules, and must be adhered to, I cant but help think there is a bit of hyprocrisy going on at the school.
If they are banning nose piercings, then there should be no lower lips allowed, no eyebrows allowed, ears??? and a teaching assistant should definitely NOT be allowed to sport a nose ring!!!
If the case is such that people are sporting lower lip piercings and that is going unpunished, and a teaching assistant has a nose piercing on display, then banning this child is pure hyprocrisy and the school need to sort their policy out and get their house in order before sending someone home in this instance. I agree StueyMac but it's the message the mother is sending out. If she was protesting because she felt there was one rule for one and one for another - fair enough. That's a not a bad lesson to teach your kids to stick up for the under dog. What is wrong with the message she's sending out is her belief that her human rights are being infringed - the daughter has no rights yet until she earns some and growing up with an attitude like that it is unlikely that she ever will.
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by diggingdeeper - 16th Dec 2024 6:16pm
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