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We all operated under the Admiralty Fleet Orders, which basically meant we were all the same but fat chance. E.g. I lost my id card and got done by the Jimmy, who had also lost his (it was an offence). he asked if I had anything to say and I answered that he had lost his as well so he couldn't really pontificate at me. He agreed and gave me an extra 3 days stoppage for insubordination, as he laughed. I was a stroppy git in those days as well. It was more or less banter. In the main the pigs got away with things we couldn't but we always tried it on. Ditto the RAF and the Army is probably the same because I've seen them at their shindigs when waiting on and then later as an attendee. The basic tenet was "Familiarity breeds contempt" and that's what they lived by, do as we say not as we do and that is the disciplinary system. When you get older and more experienced you follow the same line but you have learned right from wrong along the way, hence.......order.

In many offices (mine included) there are dress codes. We do smart casual Monday to Thursday and can wear jeans on a Friday if you like. It's no big deal, everyone knows exactly where they stand and adheres to the rules.
It's interesting as my company merged with another 4 years ago and we were mixed in the offices. Some of the other company would wear clothing totally IMHO inappropriate for work - strappy tops, short shirts, low cut tops etc. It's not about human rights, it's about shoeing respect for those you work with and for. It's unneccessary, there's a time and a place for everything or else life becomes boring with no day to day differences

I cannot belive how much attention this thread has got!

Brats shouldn't have nose rings end of!

The school should ban them and multicoloured hair etc.
The kids shouldn't be given a choice until they are 18.
Dispicable!

In the forces would a Hindu man be able to refuse to remove his turban on parade because it is religious to him? Yet a Hindu man is able to ride a motorbike in the UK without a helmet as he wears a turban.

In the forces would a female muslim soldier be able to refuse to remove piercings? Yet in school female muslim kids can refuse to remove piercings

The rules only apply to some in society.

12 years old! says a lot about the mother!

No mark! Dirtball!

correct Ste, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Well said.

Hate to be pedantic - but it is Sikhs who wear turbans.

funny thing was, in the 60's we used to train the Indian Submariners, one of whom was a Sikh. Anyway, he goes ashore with the lads and ends up coming back totally bevvied, no turban, beard shaved off and a nice crew cut. Ostracised by his own lot but ok with the Brits. He broke their rules and got banished for it, he became one of us. He seemed ok with it but his Sikh oppoes weren't.

how does it defy human rights. it

completely agree!! Rules are in place to provide order!! Schools are a place of teaching... And kids need to be taught to follow rules... So many people use the human rights act as a defence for doing whatever they please... Country is going to pot with the lack of order in society!!

Or is it just the fact that people are sick and tired of the rules only applying to some, while we see others getting away with it every damn day!!!!!

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Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights provides the right to freedom of expression

If the girl has chosen to express herself with a body piercing then it would be against her human rights to force her to remove it.

Can't be that simple HK, if the same girl wanted to express herself by walking around the school naked, what then?