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Simple - post up a sign saying

"We are not allowed to say if we sell cigarettes"

or if you wanted to be a bit cheeky ...

"We are not allowed to say if we sell cigarettes - please ask"


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Obviously they've learned nothing from the "Prohibition" era in the States, where the liquor trade was chased into the hands of the criminals. Mind you that's what they might be after because they seem to be in cahoots with all the bent gits anyway.


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Originally Posted by BandyCoot
Obviously they've learned nothing from the "Prohibition" era in the States, where the liquor trade was chased into the hands of the criminals. Mind you that's what they might be after because they seem to be in cahoots with all the bent gits anyway.
Oy, stop being realistic wink


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If it is going to affect your business, then perhaps you shouldn't be selling things that kills millions of people every year then!!

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So we will look forward to all car sales businesses closing down, cars kill multiple amounts each year.


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Originally Posted by bert1
So we will look forward to all car sales businesses closing down, cars kill multiple amounts each year.


Cars don't kill people when used in the manner in which they are intended (i.e. driven sensibly and defensively to avoid RTIs). Road deaths are caused by a number of factors, but it is not the cars themselves which are the inherent problem, it is the way they are driven a lot of the time.

Whereas, cigarettes DO kill people when used in the manner in which they are intended. There's no escaping facts.

As for costing retailers "thousands" of pounds to change their display - where the hell are they buying their shelves from? The tobacco gantry's will be removed leaving a relatively small space where shelves can go with non-tobacco products. The cigarettes need to go under the counter - where's the cost there then? Perhaps a lockable cabinet? Hardly thousands is it?

I think the idea for removing the display of tobacco is to stop new smokers taking it up. Yes, if a tobacco addict wishes to continue to smoke they still will, but this move is designed to take the temptation away from young people who are exposed to ths things almost everywhere they go to buy sweets!

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Originally Posted by Sallybear
If it is going to affect your business, then perhaps you shouldn't be selling things that kills millions of people every year then!!


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Yes, if a tobacco addict wishes to continue to smoke they still will, but this move is designed to take the temptation away from young people who are exposed to ths things almost everywhere they go to buy sweets!


My Bold.

The same sweets that cause tooth decay and lead to obesity (if you eat too many) - which is a killer too!!



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Originally Posted by Wench
The same sweets that cause tooth decay and lead to obesity (if you eat too many) - which is a killer too!!


This goes from the sublime to the ridiculous. There is no comparison between kids sweets and cigarettes. ALMOST ANYTHING can kill if taken too excess - but we are talking about tobacco which causes cancer. Let's not trivialise the matter by talking about tooth decay!

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bushnut: I know many people who smoked and lived into their 70/80's, guns and designed to kill so possibly banning them would be more realistic.

Again my body, my lungs, my money, my choice and believe it or not I ENJOY smoking so why should anyone make it illegal ?

Lets ban all things bad, fatty foods, alcohol, anything that causes global warming, religion (the worlds worst enemy) should I go on.

Really just let people live and enjoy their lives and respect that people will make choices and we all make different ones about what we like and enjoy and always will.

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The same sweets that cause tooth decay and lead to obesity (if you eat too many) - which is a killer too!!


This goes from the sublime to the ridiculous. There is no comparison between kids sweets and cigarettes. ALMOST ANYTHING can kill if taken too excess - but we are talking about tobacco which causes cancer. Let's not trivialise the matter by talking about tooth decay!


I'm not trivialising anything. Poor diet has been proven to contribute to your chance of getting various forms of cancer. Generally, those who have a poor diet have high rates of tooth decay! I know it may come as a shock, but non smokers also get lung cancer!! Also, not all smokers get cancer - lung or any other!! Lung cancer risk factors include: smoking, radon gas, industrial carcinogens, air pollution (contributing factor - cars, which you say don't kill people if used "in the manner they were intended"...kind of blows that comment out of the window), family history, genetic disposition, physical activity, previous cancer treatment, some dietary supplements, diet and alcohol.

My smoking does not put you at risk, so what's the problem!?! I'll give up if and when I'm ready to. That will be nothing to do with putting anyone at risk from the possibility of getting cancer from secondary smoke, the fact that I can't see my brand of fags displayed in a fancy cabinet, or because some arrse tells me how bad it is for me. I'm an intelligent female and am well aware of the risks - it comes down to informed consent.

If you're going to ban smoking, then alcohol should go with it too. An international team of scientists, writing in the Lancet, point out alcohol is a factor in about 60 different diseases.

The researchers found 4% of the global burden of disease is attributable to alcohol, compared with 4.1% to tobacco and 4.4% to high blood pressure.

I know that there's a lot of research out there that will either disprove or back up this particular piece of research, but the fact still remains that alcohol is just as bad. Add onto that, those killed by drink drivers, it makes it worse.


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I'm a none smoker, and not ass If people smoke or not as it's their life, the thing is the more you tell someone not to do a thing the more they will want to do it, anyone whos got children with know this. if someone is smoking, I've got two legs to walk away from them. seeyu x

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Originally Posted by DavidB
I think it's a rancid habit, but don't agree with the way it's outlawed as if it's any worse than bingeing on mcdonalds and getting poisoned everynight on alcohol. Nobody is concerned about the effects of those two. Drunken fat barstard.


Exactly. People who drink and gorge on McDonalds only affect themselves, not anyone else. Smokers selfishly inflict their habit on others. That's the point I am making.

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Originally Posted by dizdazdoz
Again my body, my lungs, my money, my choice and believe it or not I ENJOY smoking so why should anyone make it illegal ?

Yeah, and it's my taxes that pay for your treatment when (not if) you get cancer. I don't want to make smoking illegal, but do it in the privacy of your own home where it won't affect others.

And you probably don't realise, 'cos smoking has destroyed your sense of smell, but smokers stink. I sit at the back of the bus and can smell the smokers before they've even taken their seat. Are you really happy to go round smelling like an ashtray?

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cigs haveto be sold under the counter in ireland and no displays and it hasnt affected shops, it doesnt bother me either way, if someone wants to smoke they will smoke.

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