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Lucy Letby
by diggingdeeper - 16th Dec 2024 6:16pm
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Cheers Pinz! I guess you've seen them, but there are similar pictures to Chisto's one of the Mersey Railway stock at Rock Ferry Here Not actually the one, but similar.
Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
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Interesting piece in this month’s historical railway journal ‘BackTrack’ (August 2013 - Vol 27: No 8) called “The Closed Stations of Wirral’s Passenger Railways” – a 6 page article with some good illustrations (albeit one that is captioned wrongly stating that the tunnel leading from Birkenhead Woodside led to Birkenhead North… :o) A question arises from the author in it, which I quote here: In the vicinity of the old Grange Lane station building a mystery remains. There are several large, rounded and tapered lumps of stone embedded in the ground. Their shape is such that they can’t have been building material and they are embedded in an upright position, I have counted six of these stones; none is of local sandstone for they seem to be of granite. There are no markings on them. What can they be? Are they a relic from the earliest days of this railway at which point they functioned as marker points around the terminus? So, does anyone here know the answer? Anyone got photos? Any guesses? The area bounded by Jackson Street - Borough Road East and Tunnel is where i am hoping the question is about. This area was not only the site of the Grange Lane and later Town stations the left hand portion of it - up to the goods line to the docks was taken up by the first Birkenhead Joint Railway sheds - two separate ones - one for the LNWR and one for the GWR. These were built in the 1840s and replaced by the much larger depot at Mollington Street in 1878. Both buildings were still there in @ 1970 with the LNWR one surviving past the flyover scheme building to at least 1971, as a store for out-of-use engines then as a parcels/goods depot. The GWR shed after replacement was used first as a railway wagon repair depot - then latterly as the Abacus Engineering works. I suspect what the author saw was either the remants of the engine sheds or part of the flyover works - which has been cut off - where the Conway Street branch used to 'fly - over' this area of town. Have a look at the Google satellite view for the area - there seems to be concrete pillars strewn about - in the exact area the sheds were...
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Could they have been used to protect gateposts etc. from damage by wagon wheels? The pillars on the Overhead Railway had similar protection at their bases when near a roadway.
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Interesting - will have a look later at home as Works PC gone funky over displaying pictures .. :-(
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Interesting - will have a look later at home as Works PC gone funky over displaying pictures .. :-(
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Could they have been used to protect gateposts etc. from damage by wagon wheels? The pillars on the Overhead Railway had similar protection at their bases when near a roadway. Bob. I know what these are ! On the right lines Bob - they are actually to protect the horse-drawn wagon from damage - accomplished by the wheels rubbing against them - which pushed the whole wagon sideways, rather than let it rub against the harder item - a wall or railway wagon probably. These will have been put in after it ceased to be an engine shed. You can see these around the older parts of Oxton Village for the same purpose, e.g. the alley opposite the Oxton Society bookshop near the top of Christchurch Road
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bigpete, the area between Borough Road East and Jackson St. is indeed where I'm talking about. However, I think these blocks are somewhat further west of where the LNWR shed used to be. They're stone and don't seem to have formed part of any building, certainly not concrete... Rowan Thanks for the photos Rowan - Superb Think we have this solved - they are from the LNWR sheds later life as a goods transhipment shed. BTW the LNWR shed west wall formed part of the cutting wall for the docks goods line - so immediately west of this wall was a signifcant drop down to the goods lines or Sough as it is known.
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Hi, my sincere apologies for not responding sooner (due to having a baby and not getting much time on-line now!). I obtained my 'snaffled' pic from the in-house library at the NRM in York whilst on holiday. Unfortunately, I had selected a few books relating to Wirral's railways and failed to note down which books I was actually 'snaffling' from. So sorry!
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Lucy Letby
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