[quote=Wench As for all the benefits based around people having children - where's the benefits for me NOT having any!?! I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, having children is not a right, it's a privilege! [/quote]
I suppose at some time in the past child benefits were a hedge against falling populations, those who couldn't afford kids, wouldn't, but like everything it got taken to far.
Then that governmental fear was was negated in less than a decade by mass immigration, but the system was already in place and to remove it would increase child poverty.
@Wheels, With you not working you may be eligible for increased tax credits, I presume your missus works which is taking you out the system for other stuff.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
No mate she worked for Jane Norman and they went into administration last month. So she didn't even get her months wage or redundancy. She's about to drop our Son in 3 1/2 weeks so she can't get a job and now isn't gonna get her maternity pay. bad times.
But why the fcuk should anyone who doesn't work have a car? A bus pass, maybe. Why the fcuk should someone who doesn't work have Sky? Basic freeview, maybe. Why should they have cigs, alcohol, scratch cards, and in fact anything that could be considered a luxury and above and beyond what you need to 'survive'?
They shouldn't.
Oh, and they should not be having kids, full stop, as that's another privilege and they should not be brought into such a world.
But why the fcuk should anyone who doesn't work have a car? A bus pass, maybe. Why the fcuk should someone who doesn't work have Sky? Basic freeview, maybe. Why should they have cigs, alcohol, scratch cards, and in fact anything that could be considered a luxury and above and beyond what you need to 'survive'?
They shouldn't.
Oh, and they should not be having kids, full stop, as that's another privilege and they should not be brought into such a world.
Sorry mate, but you hit the nail on the head, and its gonna have to come out again, cheese and all...
£30,000 a year for 11 people works out at just over £52 a week per person, you try living on that, its not easy.
Does it make any difference if the kids belong to one person or ten different people, they are still entitled to have a decent upkeep. Or are they just classed as unemployed
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
I live a fcuking cracking life on £32,000 basic a year, but I'm not stupid enough to think I could afford 10 kids!
£52 a person per week... I'm sorry DD but the fcuking idiot should NOT be having kids.
If they are unemployed and don't want to work then they should be entitled to no more than an existence. The kids, they have done nothing wrong other than be born to a pair of wasters, but it should be stopped before it gets to that point.
You've no idea what this woman is like, she might be bringing up 10 cracking kids which might help outnumber the f-wits of the type that were out rioting recently.
Our population is (or perhaps was) decreasing rapidly which causes all sorts of problems:- who is going to be earning money to pay for state pensions, schools getting closed all over the place etc
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
£30,000 a year for 11 people works out at just over £52 a week per person, you try living on that, its not easy.
Does it make any difference if the kids belong to one person or ten different people, they are still entitled to have a decent upkeep. Or are they just classed as unemployed
No £30,00 is not enough money for 11/12 people to live on per year - but why is this woman subjecting her children to poverty? She might have tried using contraception - yes contraception fails sometimes but not 10 times
Why the need to have so many children when you can't support them yourself?
I have a large family, I have 6 kids and had planned them as we could afford them ,have always been self employed and my husband had been in full time employment for 22 yrs til he was made redundant 15 months ago - he is trawling jobsites daily and is on the books of many agencies but to no avail. He has dumbed down his CV big stylee but nothing has come up within his industry and it heartbreaking for me to see him open rejection letters each week
We were sensible enough to take out mortgage insurance but when it comes down to losing your job you have to be in receipt of JSA to get your mortgage paid so that makes us no better than the rest - my husband doesn't want to claim the poxy £64 a week but it is a necessity to keep a roof over our head grrrrr
You'd be amazed how good some kids are despite family circumstances but sadly the converse also happens as well.
There's anomalies occurring all over the show.
But I don't want to turn it into an argument, which I'm all too good at doing when I get going - I've said enough I think so I'll bid you goodnight and get my head down.
bad times.
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