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obviously you dont know what pet insurance is.
you need money to pay the vet fees and then you need the insurance company to pay up.

now if you have read the whole thread correctly you will see that i have quoted many of time we cannot even afford to pay the bills and thats why we are in the hands of citizens advice as they have taken all our debts and worked them out that we can only pay them £1 a month thats how bad things are.

So again you need the money first even if you have pet insurance so it still would be no help to us.

All the nasty Comments seem to have come from the OP ... have you read the thread from the start?

Where do you get these facts from?? Maybe your a little deluded in these Uncertain Times,let me just clarify The RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals)there not there to pay vet bills for anyone,In your case maybe they thought the cat stood a better chance with you rather than taking it off your hands to a very uncertain fate am sure there struggling just like the rest of us ... and for what its worth thoughts go out to your family
love animals me

yes there main thing is to take care of cruelty to animals but they are also there for sick and needy animals. they pay for bills on a daily basis they even had a shop in birkenhead that payed for animals constantly and thats all they did.

Because you are being rude to a member of this forum.
and I doubt if the arse-pca are gonna come on here and read my comments about them do you?

Chin up The Monk ,You did the right thing sorting the cat out ,And if you need any thing for your baby ,we have a 2 year old boy and got some stuff over that we don`t need any more I`ll sort it out for you, if you don`t mind that is June

If it's rude saying the RSPCA shouldn't help someone, and somebody should have pet insurance then so be it. I haven't slated anyone or called anyone names all as I have done is gave my opinion on the topic. If people can't take a diffrent opinion to their own they shouldn't post on an internet forum.

How do you know nobody from the RSPCA are members here or have family members? The only time you seem to post on here Tilly is when you are having a dig at the RSPCA.

It's a sad society we live in where people have to be scared to give their opinions or say what they want to fear of offending someone. Don't we live in a democracy with freedom of speech?

"Knock knock."

"who's there?"

"It's the RSPCA Mr Schrodinger, we would like to ask you a few questions."

read what i have told you over three times now, YOU STILL NEED THE MONEY IF YOU HAVE PET INSURANCE.

IF YOU DONT HAVE MONEY TO PAY THE OUTLAY THEN IT IS NO GOOD TO ANYONE.

The local RSPCA Branch received the following e-mails (responses attached)and I hope that a more balanced view can be obtained of the work we do to support members of the public - like The Monk,
who as the owner of the cat in question - has a legal responsibility to meet the needs of their pets.
Whilst the RSPCA receives donations from the public to help animals in greatest need, such resources have to be prioritised to prevent cruelty & suffering to animals. The great majority of owners accept their responsibilities as pet owners and hopefully as you can see from our responses, we try to balance need and animal welfare matters, so that the funds are directed towards the purpose for which they were donated.

E-mail Sent: 30 August 2011 21:54 to RSPCA local Branch

Dear Wirral RSPCA

I contacted you a few weeks ago reference our rabbit smelling badly and asked if you could help and possibly offer us a voucher to pay for him to be castrated and because we are not people to claim from the government you wouldn't help us and you even told us that having him castrated wouldn't necessarily help with the smell which we have been told different by three different vets around the Wirral area that your information is wrong.

We also have a cat now who has scabs all over her body and we do not know what is causing this and she is also being sick and wanting to be fed more often than we can possibly cope with and also losing her fur badly.

This is now out of control and cannot afford to have our animals treated and you will not help us, so i will now be making sure my donations to the RSPCA stop along with my families donations that they give you monthly.
Can you now tell me if you can take both of our animals into your care ASAP.

I look forward to your response.
Thank you.




RSPCA BRANCH response – 31st August 2011- 11.45 a.m.

Thank you for your email.

When you contacted us a few weeks ago I seem to remember suggesting you took your rabbit to the vet to get him checked, as there may have been another reason for the smell and thought it best to get him checked in case of any infection. We do not have a vet here and would never advise as such.

I advised you that as you are not on any state benefits we are unable to assist with the neutering of your rabbit, but I seem to recall asking if you were on any housing benefit as if you were we would be able to help you. As yet I have not had a response to that question, so I find it difficult to understand when you say we are not willing to help. Regarding the cat, I cannot find any correspondance at all, what help did you ask from us and what were you told?.

We rely solely on public donations to help sick and injured unowned animals. Without this support we wouldn't be able to help these animals who have no one. Of which, we successfully rehomed over 900 last year.

I look forward to your response.

Kind Regards
Animal Care Manager



E-mail Sent: 31 August 2011 15:34
To: RSPCA Branch
Subject: Re: RSPCA Not Willing to help
Hi

Firstly lose the attitude.
Yes you say go and take the rabbit to the vet and i recall telling you there is no money here to pay for this and this is the whole problem. Please don't let me to have to repeat myself to you.
In answer to your question we can get housing benefit but not sure how much and as yet we have not looked into this.

You say all the rubbish at the bottom of this email about rehoming and looking after sick un-owned animals but you have no idea how many people i know including my mother and auntie who have come across injured animals and as always when contacting the RSPCA they cannot help or want you to wait ridiculous times which is no good when the animal in the past we have reported have been dying.

Please when replying do not come back with the same attitude or i will contact the RSPCA CEO about you and your replies.
As we have said to everyone if you work and try and deal with bills the best you can and have problems then there is no one willing to help with charges unless you are a government scrounger and then you get everything free.




RSPCA BRANCH response - 31st August 2011 – 17.03 p.m.

Firstly, there was no intended attitude, but if this is your perception, then I apologise.

As I am sure that you are aware, as the owner of the pets you have a legal responsibility under The Animal Welfare Act to ensure that they receive veterinary attention as they need it. Whilst I understand that finances may be strained, you still have to ensure that your pets do not suffer unnecessarily and from your e-mails, it is clear that they need to see a vet as clearly they have conditions that need treating. Failure to do so places you at risk.

Whilst the Branch does have a scheme in place to help people who have financial difficulties, it needs to be demonstrated that this is the case and the easiest way to do this (to avoid wasting money donated to us on needless admin), is to use those government schemes already in place that help to determine hardship. It appears, however, that you are not in receipt of benefits or housing benefit and unfortunately, therefore, do not qualify under our scheme.
You state that you can get housing benefit but haven't looked into this yet. If this was looked into & confirmed, then we may be able to help, but it sounds as though your pets need seeing by a vet sooner rather than later - which is still your responsibility. As the owner, you cannot rely on the availability of schemes that may or may not be in place by animal welfare organisations such as our own.

Whilst we are grateful to you and other members of your family for donating to the RSPCA, we would rather that you cancel these donations if they enable you to afford the necessary vet treatment for your pets.

The "so called" rubbish that you refer to - is factual and we have hundreds of satisfied re-homing clients who are grateful for the work that we do. The examples you relate to of injured animals waiting to be collected etc, is sometimes true as there are limited numbers of Inspectors and Animal collection officers available trying to deal with the hundreds of thousands of requests over the year, which is why many members of the public, help us by taking the injured animal to the nearest vet, where this is possible.

Although you don't qualify under our scheme, as a one off and to help your rabbit and cat get seen by the vet, to at least diagnose the problems, I am willing to assist with part of the cost of the consultation fee, if you confirm which vet you are taking your pets to see and the date & time. I will then be able to fax a voucher over to them for £20.00. Any amount over and above this, for the consultation and treatment will have to be met by yourself.

Cheers
Branch Manager

Despite this offer - we are not aware that the owner has as yet taken the cat (and rabbit) to the vets. Which may be why the local Inspector was called out to the house.

Our Mission Statement

The RSPCA as a charity will, by all lawful means, prevent cruelty and promote kindness to and alleviate suffering of all animals.

Our Mission

From endangered whales to fairground goldfish from pet cats to circus lions we are on a mission to promote compassion for all creatures.

People asking the RSPCA to help them fund having thier rabit castrated and feeding their cat lol that is just pure cheek.

I don't see any attitude in the reply by the RSPCA manager yet the e-mailer had the cheek to tell them to loose the attitude and threatend to report them to the CEO lol.

Then the "Arse PCA" (as Tilly calls them) kindly offer to donate £20 towards the e-mailers vet fee's after they had threatend to report them to the CEO and they get no reply?

Society we live in now is always blame someone else. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

Excellent so there we have it always two side to every tale`thank you jellybabe for shedding some light...I was beginning to think it was a free for all and open to abuse "word soon gets round",anyway I understand why you have come on here if any thing just to set the record straight so fair play all round just as I thought take my hat off te ye.

Think he went ahead with the complaint,what gets me is why kick up a fuss went she checked out the rabbit, after all it was also sick was it not.

no nothing was wrong with the rabbit at all for your information.