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More than one has died.

Calday pupils.

I'll let you know more as I am given it.

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Originally Posted by AlexB
More than one has died.

Calday pupils.

I'll let you know more as I am given it.

I know you don't need telling, but please don't mention names or any identifying details. Not all family etc may have been notified as yet.


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I'm being given the info by my bro who has a mate who works at the school. Apologies if it's not 100% accurate.

Regardless, it sounds horrendous and my best wishes go out to all those involved.

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Originally Posted by Wench

I know you don't need telling, but please don't mention names or any identifying details. Not all family etc may have been notified as yet.


Of course not.

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Coming from Heswall to Thurstaston, there is only one national speed limit sign and this is often obscured.There should, by law, be two signs to indicate speed change from,in this case, a 30mph zone into a national speed limit.I use this road often and find older people driving at 30mph (probably because they must have missed the speed change sign) and this in itself causing other people to overtake to the correct speed.Really, reducing the speed isn`t going to help.Speed limits are always a maximum anyway. Proposed new laws reducing number of teenage passengers in a teenage drivers car sounds a really good idea as does the 7pm curfew.Sadly too late in this case and if it was this that "caused" it.

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This happened by the roadworks though, so we can't speculate on what happened just yet.

Also, I'm convinced 'the lanes' are not NSL anymore.

I got it wrong originally and it's a 16 year old who has died. A really nice lad too, it's never the scrotes.

The driver of the car in which the passenger died and 2 other people are still critical.

A sad day.

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Originally Posted by AlexB
This happened by the roadworks though, so we can't speculate on what happened just yet.

Also, I'm convinced 'the lanes' are not NSL anymore.

I got it wrong originally and it's a 16 year old who has died. A really nice lad too, it's never the scrotes.

The driver of the car in which the passenger died and 2 other people are still critical.

A sad day.


Nowhere near the road works (40mph BTW).
Definately on the 3 s`s on a NSL road.NSL starts just past the roundabout towards Heswall (2 signs this end but only one sign form Hewsall to Thurstaston) Saw the area where the crash was when passing this morning.

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Just goes to show that even hearing directly from my bro who was texting someone who was there that things can be wrong.

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Originally Posted by AlexB
Just goes to show that even hearing directly from my bro who was texting someone who was there that things can be wrong.


Predicitive text no doubt.....

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If it was the same black ford fiesta that was driving around west kirby yesterday im not surprised car full of lads driving like an idiot......

sympathy to those concerned no one deserves that .......but if mummy and daddy buy these kids a two litre ford fiesta st when they obviuosly havent enough experience

sorry if this sounds insensative but i think that like motorbikes you should be restricted to smaller engine cars when you first pass.

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Originally Posted by Lord_of_the_M53
If it was the same black ford fiesta that was driving around west kirby yesterday im not surprised car full of lads driving like an idiot......

sympathy to those concerned no one deserves that .......but if mummy and daddy buy these kids a two litre ford fiesta st when they obviuosly havent enough experience

sorry if this sounds insensative but i think that like motorbikes you should be restricted to smaller engine cars when you first pass.


Yup... it sounds insensitive, though some is perhaps appropriate for a separate thread on traffic concerns in general... I stumbled across this thread/forum and having two boys at Calday am privy to more information than is here... a boy of 17 lost his life and there are 6 other people who are injured... 2 remain in ITU... I am amazed and disappointed at the "speculation" and misinformation that has been written by some...


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Originally Posted by EsoxLucius
I am amazed and disappointed at the "speculation" and misinformation that has been written by some...


We do have this discussion every time a 'sensitive' subject comes up. I imagine you're referring to me with the misinformation for which I apologise. I'm the first to shout rumour or 'back it up' at times like this.

Also happens to be quite a sensitive subject personally when we talk about young lads driving round like idiots. I have lost a couple of friends and people I went to school with in car accidents (all Calday boys as well), one was the driver being a plonker and one was a genuine accident.

All young lads pass their test and think they are invincible, it's a fact of life, they think because they've done a few hours of lessons and shown they can reverse around a corner that their driving experience is top notch.

The thing is that you continue 'learning' to drive up until the day you hang up your license.

I did hear on the news this morning that the black Fiesta involved lost both it's doors on 'one side of the car' so that would suggest it wasn't an ST. Again, its not unheard of for the news to get things wrong!

However, Lord_of_the_M53, I would suggest that you contact the police regarding what you saw because if this lad was driving like a loon then they will need as much evidence as possible to back up their case. If it's proved that he was being stupid and that it directly lead to this accident then I'm afraid that if he pulls through he's going to be in some serious trouble.

Obviously my best wishes are with all the victims and their family and friends as I know exactly what they will be going through at this point.

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