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bizzybee #648091 7th Jan 2012 11:37am
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Originally Posted by bizzybee
I am absolutely certain that Albert Einstein is not suggesting that you can be visited by your great great grandfather.


...that's not what I said.

My somewhat limited understanding of such things is that energy (or vibration) is a form of interaction or information exchange. You originally said that there was no evidence for life after death and that it was purely part of a belief system. However, science suggests that nothing is really destroyed it just changes. Your great great grandfather might not come visit you in person but every part of him still exists in some form today, and continues to interact with the universe.

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Now that, geekus, I can find very feasible but, as I am sure you are aware, it is not most people's idea of life after death.

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...quite right bizzybee, but if you accept the idea that energy cannot be destroyed or created it only changes, then (even by the laws of physics) such processes must take time.

Perhaps, some people who are more tuned-in or "sensitive" than others can still sense the energy of a life-force that is in the process of changing, and interpret such experiences as evidence of continued existence?


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I agree with all you say Geekus, although there is the question of spiritual experiences, which in most cases, appear from nowhere, like a bolt of lightening. People relate these. One recent example was spoken about on the story of George Harrisons life, just pre-Christmas. His wife, whom I think is of sound mind, explained that at the moment of his death the whole room lit up. Actually lit up! That I have heard from aother persons experience who had no need to relate the event, but she was not dying or even ill,wasn't on drugs and is still very much alive. This was her experience, which was a tiny bit of it and not related to any life after death senario and if I said more, as mentioned earier, you would all think either she or myself as -----yes you guessed------psyciatric cases!


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...we're all mad on here, granny. Didn't you know?


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Originally Posted by geekus
...we're all mad on here, granny. Didn't you know?


Looks like you're off to the moon again too.

Yes if you aren't mad to begin with,--- it doesn't take long to get there. Mad that is, not the moon.

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I'm with Bizzybee on this, sadly there are numerous people who make money out of people's hopes.

I don't think that after the thousands of years of humans on the planet and still not any grasp of real evidence otherwise that this warrants anyone to be open-minded about this any longer.

The human mind is easily mislead and also it has imagination, sometimes it is extremely difficult to separate reality from fantasy.



If people want to believe in Santa Claus or whatever to make themselves happy, that is their right and is the basis of most religions (other than money!).


Do you think this could be classed as any sort of proof rather than fantasy. Witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people and which continued 3 times weekly for over two years?
This is not something which has just come into the public domain,I had a book on it over twenty years ago.

http://www.zeitun-eg.org/stmary9.htm
http://www.zeitun-eg.org/stmaridx.htm


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I had a book on this subject too. It was written by a ghost writer.

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Thought you was going to say it was invisible!! lol

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You don't get off that 'light'ly


Here is another make of it what you will.

This is from Assiut in Egypt in the year 2000 and is well documented.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7NJIvtD0Y&feature=endscreen&NR=1


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I think David Copperfield was out in Assuit up to his tricks again.

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Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I'm with Bizzybee on this, sadly there are numerous people who make money out of people's hopes.

I don't think that after the thousands of years of humans on the planet and still not any grasp of real evidence otherwise that this warrants anyone to be open-minded about this any longer.

The human mind is easily mislead and also it has imagination, sometimes it is extremely difficult to separate reality from fantasy.



If people want to believe in Santa Claus or whatever to make themselves happy, that is their right and is the basis of most religions (other than money!).


Do you think this could be classed as any sort of proof rather than fantasy. Witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people and which continued 3 times weekly for over two years?
This is not something which has just come into the public domain,I had a book on it over twenty years ago.

http://www.zeitun-eg.org/stmary9.htm
http://www.zeitun-eg.org/stmaridx.htm


Thousands of people claim to have witness the Phoenix Lights in 1997. But that does not prove that we have been visited by aliens. People see what they want to see and interpret it in many ways to suit themselves.

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Buzzybee, can you say what you would define as proof or evidence.

Do you believe the sightings of Phoenix Lights 1997 were an event and if so, what proof or evidence would you require of the sightings? I am not sure where you are coming from on this.


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Those Chinese lanterns were put up as UFO's or similar until they were exposed for being what they were. Once you are gone you are gone but the actual atoms of which you consist never actually disappear they just get used up as something else, depends where you are interred or incinerated.


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I thought Phoenix lights was brilliant. Love stuff about Lancashire!! :-) The two bouncers were hilarious!!

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