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thought there was a housing shortage, were are all these one-bed flats going to come from, not been thought through properly
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Reading with Interest we have a 3 bedroom house according to the council, wifes disabled , Im her carer 24/7 we recieve full H/Benefit so anyone know whats happening with us as I read the link Rocks put up in post 1 and cannot make head nor tail of it 
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probably have to pay 25% of your rent, Red as you have two 'excess' bedrooms. 
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This may be better Red Link but dont dare look at Wirral updates Here . Crazy rules, different for private landlords (they will be able to milk it now), and also different depending on who your council is as it's only guide's set and I will hazard a guess the WBC will decide to use the highest available.
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In private rentals you only get paid enough benefit to cover the amount of bedrooms you need. Its called L.H.A. So really, its council housing catching up with private rentals.
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see here for a download of a leaflet thats been produced To support housing associations communicate changes in housing benefit to their tenants, we have produced an information leaflet. The leaflet has information about the main changes, who will be affected and who tenants can contact to get help and advice. The leaflet is available to download now (PDF, 1.2 MB, opens new window). http://www.housing.org.uk/publications/find_a_publication/general/housing_benefit_changes.aspx
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In private rentals you only get paid enough benefit to cover the amount of bedrooms you need. Its called L.H.A. So really, its council housing catching up with private rentals. Are you sure that this is current legislation? I know somebody who applied for housing benefit and they were given a figure of the upper limit of the rent they could claim but there was no mention of the number of bedrooms?
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In private rentals you only get paid enough benefit to cover the amount of bedrooms you need. Its called L.H.A. So really, its council housing catching up with private rentals. Fair enough I honestly never knew that, I just seen the wording in the new tax one and noticed it only applied to council/housing associations.
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Sorry folks but not to be controversial but because I have a voice and an opinion, I agree with it.
Why should I, as a working person who pays tax, NI and the bloody rest, pay for someone to live in a 3 bed house and only use 1 bedroom!
People may have their own reasons for claiming housing tax benefit to get their "free" home but I have to earn mine and pay it myself, so please forgive me for not giving a toss that some estimated 660,000 working-age social tenants – 31% of existing working-age housing benefit claimants - will have to pay extra.
I get nothing back from the State. I pay 40% of my wage to Tax and another 11% to NI, thats over 50% of my wages gone before I see a single penny of it. Yes I am fortunate enough to have a job but bugger me if we only just make ends meet!
I can't afford a foreign holiday every year and have a 9 year old car, so if by paying your way for "spare" rooms then hopefully this will alleviate the burden on the tax payers of this country.
Oh! I only have a 2 bedroom ex-council house which is pretty big enough for both the wife and me and our teenage son.
Please everyone don't take this as any sort of personal attack but just my point of view and probably of many of other people on here just not willing to air their views.
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years ago (late 60s early 70s) the council used to help you down size as i remember my grand parents having a 3bed on the woodchurch and were told they no longer needed the extra space as their children had left home and the council moved them into a 1bed in rock ferry, im sure they wernt too happy about it at the time but it didnt hit them in their pocket and they were "helped" to down size the problem this time around is that even if some tenants dont mind down sizing there just isnt enough 1bed properties to meet the demand and as already mentioned what about people with animals? there really is a much bigger picture that will emerge
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Sorry folks but not to be controversial but because I have a voice and an opinion, I agree with it.
Why should I, as a working person who pays tax, NI and the bloody rest, pay for someone to live in a 3 bed house and only use 1 bedroom!
People may have their own reasons for claiming housing tax benefit to get their "free" home but I have to earn mine and pay it myself, so please forgive me for not giving a toss that some estimated 660,000 working-age social tenants – 31% of existing working-age housing benefit claimants - will have to pay extra.
I get nothing back from the State. I pay 40% of my wage to Tax and another 11% to NI, thats over 50% of my wages gone before I see a single penny of it. Yes I am fortunate enough to have a job but bugger me if we only just make ends meet!
I can't afford a foreign holiday every year and have a 9 year old car, so if by paying your way for "spare" rooms then hopefully this will alleviate the burden on the tax payers of this country.
Oh! I only have a 2 bedroom ex-council house which is pretty big enough for both the wife and me and our teenage son.
Please everyone don't take this as any sort of personal attack but just my point of view and probably of many of other people on here just not willing to air their views.
I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion, but I'm having difficulty with the idea that you pay 40% of your wage in tax. Personal allowance £8105, then 20% tax on the next £34,370, so you only pay 40% on earnings over £42,475
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Personal allowance £8105, then 20% tax on the next £34,370, so you only pay 40% on earnings over £42,475  i do have a good job!
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Personal allowance £8105, then 20% tax on the next £34,370, so you only pay 40% on earnings over £42,475 i do have a good job! Well, I'm happy for you. You may pay some tax at 40% but to say that "I pay 40% of my wage to tax" is incorrect and therefore weakens your argument.
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Sorry folks but not to be controversial but because I have a voice and an opinion, I agree with it.
Why should I, as a working person who pays tax, NI and the bloody rest, pay for someone to live in a 3 bed house and only use 1 bedroom!
People may have their own reasons for claiming housing tax benefit to get their "free" home but I have to earn mine and pay it myself, so please forgive me for not giving a toss that some estimated 660,000 working-age social tenants – 31% of existing working-age housing benefit claimants - will have to pay extra.
I get nothing back from the State. I pay 40% of my wage to Tax and another 11% to NI, thats over 50% of my wages gone before I see a single penny of it. Yes I am fortunate enough to have a job but bugger me if we only just make ends meet!
I can't afford a foreign holiday every year and have a 9 year old car, so if by paying your way for "spare" rooms then hopefully this will alleviate the burden on the tax payers of this country.
Oh! I only have a 2 bedroom ex-council house which is pretty big enough for both the wife and me and our teenage son.
Please everyone don't take this as any sort of personal attack but just my point of view and probably of many of other people on here just not willing to air their views.
I dont think that the people at the bottom have bankrupted this country, its the people at the top who've done all the damage. Then they get everyone to blame the poor.
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Common sense says it's a good idea.
I just find it morally wrong that a couple who have been in the house for say 25 years or more, whose kids have now left home, may have worked for 35 years paying taxes but lose their jobs in recession, then could lose the FAMILY home because of a bedroom tax, they may have only been claiming benefit's for a matter of months.
Seriously needs reviewing.
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