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It was 25% where I lived when I was unemployed in the 80's. Don't let anyone kid you things are worse or as bad now as they were then, they're not.
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i disagree capt, jobs are not there like they were in the past, proper jobs decent wage and conditions have gone and been replaced by purpose built units that usually take agency on minimum wage ok if you can claim tax credit etc but firms pay low knowing government made money up.
the big boys have vanished i worked at vauxhalls when you could pop in fill in form and start on monday well paid good conditions now if they want i person thousands apply.
automation saw a lot of jobs off,
many many big firms gone or slashed workforce.
i remember when you could walk around and billboards were outside advertising for staff immediate start no c.v or ref req no experience or c.r.b check neccessary
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'Must have experience' are the words that piss me off the most in job adverts.
Like ffs how hard is it to clean your office or drop off 50 - 70 parcels a day.
How did the majority of people in jobs that require 'experience' get their experience in the first place? They most likely didnt have any - at all.
Makes my blood boil it does.
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i warned my daughter that she prob wouldn't get any replies, shes applying for part time as has just started uni...
the first one she applied for was argos and she got the job,
morrisons also gave her an interview but said its about 6 weeks till they let you know?
none of the ohers even aknowledged her...
i agree, in this day and age a quick email doesn't take long even if to say no, sorry..
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It was like that for my son too. He even got a yes to one job but before he even started the company went bust. But glad to say that after all the waiting and heartache from all the rejections he started a job 2 weeks ago and its better then the ones he got a no from, so in the end it was worth the year long wait.
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i disagree capt, jobs are not there like they were in the past, proper jobs decent wage and conditions have gone and been replaced by purpose built units that usually take agency on minimum wage ok if you can claim tax credit etc but firms pay low knowing government made money up.
the big boys have vanished i worked at vauxhalls when you could pop in fill in form and start on monday well paid good conditions now if they want i person thousands apply.
automation saw a lot of jobs off,
many many big firms gone or slashed workforce.
i remember when you could walk around and billboards were outside advertising for staff immediate start no c.v or ref req no experience or c.r.b check neccessary
I agree with most of what you say Sunnyside. The tax credits, were/or have become the downfall for many. The companies that paid a decent wage once, when there was some competition for employees, simply altered the criteria and brought in the minimum wage. Hence the previous government were supporting the companies for years, by making up the wages. The companies had to do something with their money....and so the bonus scheme seemed to be one way of absorbing all those profits. If that isn't what happened, well where did all the company profits, in the 'oh so wonderful' previous decade, go to? The whole affair didn't work, other than keeping the umemployment figures down as most were on part time hours and short term contracts, back then too.It kept the figures rotating. Which in turn leads to the property market falling, as long term permanemt employment is needed to get a mortgage and also a decent salary to start off with. So the making everyone equal( or trying to) has done nothing for anyone. It has just made the gap wider between 'the haves' and 'the have nots'. Bloody politics....... I think the eighties where not so good but, I lived in a different area for part of, and there didn't seem to be a problem there.
Last edited by granny; 21st Oct 2012 11:45am.
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thats great news! 
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I think I have always been lucky Job wise as I have never been out of work since I have been an adult. I always found a new job before moving on. I get paid really well now as I have 6/7 years in the business I am in. But my when I applied to get in to this industry I was lucky again they wanted a blank slate they could mold and I was lucky to get it.
I have to agree with Abbot, when A job is relatively low paid and are asking for previous experience they are taking the P*ss as you cannot get experience without the chance!
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when A job is relatively low paid and are asking for previous experience they are taking the P*ss as you cannot get experience without the chance! i agree totally...
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My son has applied for lots of jobs but also simple basic apprenticeships were the wage is £100 a week and he still doesn't get a reply. It's so soul destroying for them. There is nothing for those that want a career
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Abbot, I totally agree with you about these employers wanting experience. It's the old, old story, isn't it: just how on earth can you get the experience if nobody will give you a job?
I am getting really fed up with living in this country and its scarcity of jobs. Often I have thought about emigrating.
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Leylo, I can certainly share great empathy with your son. I have had the same old depressing story from these employers. I am feeling so angry and disheartened about my chances of EVER getting a job on Merseyside.
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they are taking on in home bargain, i posted yesterday when i saw the ad go up whilst out shopping..did you apply there?
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just how on earth can you get the experience if nobody will give you a job?
The problem is that employers don't want to train new workers while there is a pool of workers out there who DO have experience from having previously worked in the relevant industry. Can you blame employers? I think not.
Carpe diem.
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ALWAYS REMEMBER BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU:::::::: Have a nice day and an even better one tomorrow
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