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And what of the "duty of care" of the parents letting an underage girl out pissed up and on drugs?
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Appauling decision !! (IMHO of course!) The Guard has been put through the wringer and hung out to dry. Who was it who said "The law is an Ass" ?? How right!
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I hope his lawyers are appealing against this ludicrous decision.
I also hope that EVERYBODY involved that night shares his 'guilt'.
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Disgusting - my sympathies are with the Train Guard and his family.
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So wrong! Terrible decision.
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Words fail me, The Varleys will feel some perverse sort of victory tonight and may even be out celebrating in the bars of the wirral. Next will be the financial element, let them remember "YOU "allowed your child to roam the streets as did her friends and famileys. Never before have I felt so upset at such injustice.
Rip miss varley
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I am very upset at what happened to this child. I am even more mad about her mothers justification. "She only did what every other teenager does". Speak for yourself missus, luckily my kids don't get pissed and stoned and act like that (thank God). Even if you think everyone does that, it doesn't make it right. You should have been more concerned about where you 16 year old child was and what she was up to.
It is a tragic and senseless death and it is no single persons fault.
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I am very upset at what happened to this child. I am even more mad about her mothers justification. "She only did what every other teenager does". Speak for yourself missus, luckily my kids don't get pissed and stoned and act like that (thank God). Even if you think everyone does that, it doesn't make it right. You should have been more concerned about where you 16 year old child was and what she was up to.
It is a tragic and senseless death and it is no single persons fault. Well said, saw her on news pretty much passing the blame for her crap ( or is that non existent) parenting skills. SHE needs a good kick up the jacksy.
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I'm quite confused by the reactions to this conviction. The guy is clearly seen looking at the girl, knowing she is under the influence, leaning on the train and still gave the all clear to pull away.
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The problem is that every weekend kids are banging on trains and they jump back when the whistle goes.mersey rail should have been prosecuted for not manning stations. As far as appeals go they cost money which I suspect will be in short supply. Two wrongs dont make a right and I think it is unfair to cast slurs on mrs varley.i doubt that she is gloating grieving more like.teenagers do do daft things and very sadly Georgia has paid for it with her life.rip Georgia best wishes to the guard I hope your colleagues set up an appeal fund to which i would gladly contribute
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I said earlier in this thread that I thought the guard was a scapegoat and still feel the same, I do also realise that NOT ALL transactions will be released to the public so if we knew all the facts then maybe some would feel slightly different.
Wouldn't judge/comment on her mothers parenting skills, so easy to say my kids dont do it,I never done it as many things affect the way we turn out in life, choices we make are in part from the society we live in, Georgia was 16, allowed to make her own decisions and choices and her parents in law would not be held accountable for her actions.
Whether people do feel the mother was wrong she will still be grieving so comments about celebrating are a bit off really. I would guess that the majority of posters here were drinking and getting drunk before our 18th so find it strange that a few are saying how wrong it was.
All in all I feel it was a tragic set of circumstances that led to a devestating end for Georgia's family and the guard who has been found guilty.
I hope both families and all involved eventually find some way of moving forward and living a life as normal as possible.
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The words that really stick out to me from the 'mothers' quotes over the case :
"For he had very little, if any, regard at all for our daughter and her safety."
Really who would allow their daughter to go to a party where and not for the first time her friends said that she got so drunk on vodka that she couldnt control herself, she took drugs and at 16 was travelling to Liverpool to gain under age entry into a nightclub.
It was just a tragic accident that nobody wanted to happen in a million years, she could of just as easily been run over by a car or a bus in that state.
You cant just blame the guard, a lot of people let her down by allowing her to get into that state, including her friends, it sounds tough but that is the way it is.
R.I.P. Georgia
------------------------------------------------------ Speaking outside Liverpool Crown Court, Georgia Varley's mother, Paula Redmond, 41, said: "As a parent, Georgia was our only child. In fact, for me, she was my entire family.
"We have listened as our daughter was portrayed as being a drunken liability when, in all honesty, she did no more than what many teenagers do of a weekend - she went out to celebrate her friend's birthday.
"The only liability that night was a train guard whom Georgia had the catastrophic misfortune to encounter.
"For he had very little, if any, regard at all for our daughter and her safety.
Ms Redmond added: "May our baby girl finally rest in peace." ---------------------------------------------------------------
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A lot more children 16 and under go out drinking than I think a lot of you realise. I know this as I was one of these. I did it for a good while without my parents even knowing as did the majority of kids in my school.
I don't think her age is really an issue. This could have happened to anyone at any age under the same circumstances.
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