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It should be classed as a Mis Adventure leading up to a death. So thoughts go to both families. But, I will say this. It is a culmination of actions which lead to the sad endings. We can all say ifs and buts. The guard should not be blamed. Ripple effect. The guard will live with this tragedy all his life. The 16 year old knew what she was doing when she first drank or took anything. These teenagers are aware of effects of substance abuse, it is part of the PHSE life lessons in schools.
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I have refrained from commenting until now with regard to this tragedy.
Firstly, my thoughts go out to Georgia's family.
Secondly, although the train guard made a mistake, you have to question if he was directly responsible for solely causing the death. Normally when a train is in the station, people near the train step back and let the train leave. Unfortunately, due to a combination of circumstances Georgia was in no fit state to act rationally and this resulted in the death. If the train guard has a duty of care to Georgia (especially because of her age) then others also bear responsibility for allowing her to get in that state. And Georgia bears some responsibility herself - unfortunately she paid the price.
Thirdly, for those insisting it was all the guard's fault. The appropriate response now would be for Merseyrail staff to not allow anybody looking as though they may be under the effects of alcohol to be allowed on station premises or trains.
As you can imagine though, this would result in 95% of passengers after 9pm not being allowed to get the train.
I think that, as others have stated previously, that this is just a tragic accident. It is a bit like prosecuting a train company when a teenager trespasses on a railway line and is electrocuted.
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Typical , just like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted .
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what people dont realise was this man was cleared of all charges against him by Merseyrail and given a commendation on how he handled the tragic accident that night yet none of this was used in his trail?!
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what people dont realise was this man was cleared of all charges against him by Merseyrail and given a commendation on how he handled the tragic accident that night yet none of this was used in his trail?! Thats interesting, is it public knowledge because if it is, it should be made known to a wider amount of people and it will help the petition.
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Lots that the public don't know or the jury for that matter
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It should be classed as a Mis Adventure leading up to a death. So thoughts go to both families. But, I will say this. It is a culmination of actions which lead to the sad endings. We can all say ifs and buts. The guard should not be blamed. Ripple effect. The guard will live with this tragedy all his life. The 16 year old knew what she was doing when she first drank or took anything. These teenagers are aware of effects of substance abuse, it is part of the PHSE life lessons in schools. the guard give the signal for the train t go even though he could clearly see Georgia was leaning against the train. Even if she wasnt leaning against the train she was still not on the right side of the yellow line. He shouldnt of give the signal for the train to go. He is at fault.
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I think a lot of the anger and frustration is that the guard was put in the position where his "negligence" in his duty resulted in Georgias death. Heard the bus driver who was involved in a accident killing a teenager (Tollemache Rd) commited suicide. Have written to the train guard to let him know a lot of folk are supportive (without being judgemental either way)
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what people dont realise was this man was cleared of all charges against him by Merseyrail and given a commendation on how he handled the tragic accident that night yet none of this was used in his trail?! The whole affair is a terrible tragedy. I wonder that if Merseyrail had not cleared him of all charges, or given him a commendation, could it have been that they too, would have had questions to answer? A style of self preservation! Well done fish for letting him know, on behalf of others. Thanks, let's hope it helps him in some small way.
Last edited by granny; 4th Dec 2012 12:39am.
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Katryn, the guard may have been at fault but so were many others, only the guard has been on trial that means everyone else can sleep with a clear conscience. NO!
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