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casper #780334 25th Mar 2013 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by casper
Would I be right in saying that tranmere have owned the fields over the last ten years and it they that have let the fields become unkempt and a dog toilet?and that the £1.3million that has been given to tranmere would have been better spent doing the Woody up, now that sounds right to me public money spent on the public instead of a private club.


I was referring to the Woodchurch fields as the dog toilet, so no, Tranmere Rovers have not owned those fields for the last 10 years, or at all, nor been in any way responsible for maintaining them.

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I don't live local anymore, but im proud to support Tranmere as it's the team of my home town. Perhaps if enough from the Wirral supported their local team rather than purporting to support the big boys from over the water (tunnel rats watching match of the day) then the club wouldn't need to sell land to survive. My son was born in Germany (i was in the army) and now we live down south he has chosen his local team to support (Aldershot) rather than a big boy like Chelsea. I'm so proud of him for that. I have respect for those supporting their local team, no matter how poor they may be. To the tunnel rats on here, remember that Tranmere is your home team. You may not want to support them, but why spite them just when they have a chance of achieving something good. The memorial will still be a memorial no matter where the plaque is. Tranmere is regenerating Woodchurch and the council got a lot more for the sponsorshp than the money they put in. Thats what sponsorship means. It wasn't a gift! Thank goodness educated people understand these things!

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Well at least I can say quite honestly that I'm not a Plastic Scouser. What a relief.

What is particularly sad about this issue is that alternatives have not been looked into. Ideally, TRFC could sell Ingleborough field back to WBC at its purchase price so it could remain as a memorial playing field for Wirral schools.

That way, everyone (myself included) would applaud TRFC. The positive publicity generated would mean that new sponsors would queue up to give them more cash than WBC ever did. In a couple of seasons time they would be murdering City and United and bring home the trophies.


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Not at all. Tranmere have never owned those fields. Casper, take a look at what the council got in return for the money. You will be surprised. The club has made nothing. So much so that the fans have been appealing for a sponsor that actually puts money into the club for years.

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Originally Posted by philmch
Well at least I can say quite honestly that I'm not a Plastic Scouser. What a relief.

What is particularly sad about this issue is that alternatives have not been looked into. Ideally, TRFC could sell Ingleborough field back to WBC at its purchase price so it could remain as a memorial playing field for Wirral schools.

That way, everyone (myself included) would applaud TRFC. The positive publicity generated would mean that new sponsors would queue up to give them more cash than WBC ever did. In a couple of seasons time they would be murdering City and United and bring home the trophies.

City and United are big clubs. We need to start small. Liverpoool and Everton maybe wink

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As a former pupil of the Institute and having played at Ingleborough I would obviously have a slight bias to keep the place as a field. My 2 main objections would be the councils willingness to over turn a legal covenant for money and the loss of a green space.. You cant build new houses on the green fields of posh parts of the wirral so why Prenton? Surely the council have a conflict of interest having funded TRFC for so many years.Can you imagine the uproar if the footy pitches in Birkenhead Park were to be housed over. A few dead soldiers dont really matter--as we can see by how our Govt expend them in foreign lands for naf all

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Originally Posted by fish5133
As a former pupil of the Institute and having played at Ingleborough I would obviously have a slight bias to keep the place as a field. My 2 main objections would be the councils willingness to over turn a legal covenant for money and the loss of a green space.. You cant build new houses on the green fields of posh parts of the wirral so why Prenton? Surely the council have a conflict of interest having funded TRFC for so many years.Can you imagine the uproar if the footy pitches in Birkenhead Park were to be housed over. A few dead soldiers dont really matter--as we can see by how our Govt expend them in foreign lands for naf all


Fish, a plaque, a tree, a field, a memorial, what difference? The important thing is that the place represents the fallen.

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Most people who live on the estate are for the plans for creating housing on the field, i live close by and it has my support, most people who object dont even live nearby, this has been ongoing for a number of years with regular consulation with the tennants, the developer is going to create a better memorial than present, who actually visits the memorial any way as its locked up behind gates at least in its new position people would be able to pay their respects, all the peole who live in the houses surrounding the fields are getting an addition to their gardens so every one is a winner, its all going through now so thats that, we want it you dont know what your talking about so get over it its too late

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So most people backing on to the field want to swop the view of a green open space with marley modern roof tiles? Well I hope they get their garden extensions. My mother in law was promised one by the council then they renaged.

I wasnt arguing specifically about the memorial but things which may affect all of us no matter where we live---the councils attitude to covenants and their willingness to build on green open space --when it suits them

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Originally Posted by fish5133
So most people backing on to the field want to swop the view of a green open space with marley modern roof tiles? Well I hope they get their garden extensions. My mother in law was promised one by the council then they renaged.

I wasnt arguing specifically about the memorial but things which may affect all of us no matter where we live---the councils attitude to covenants and their willingness to build on green open space --when it suits them


Fair play to a council that takes advantage of the new opportunities to develop, invest in growth, get builders building etc...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/gr...ssault-on-green-belt-planning-rules.html

Im no Tory but for once they made got something right!

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Fish, a plaque, a tree, a field, a memorial, what difference? The important thing is that the place represents the fallen.


I thought it just represented a bloke from the Wirral who wrote a few lines of dodgy poetry at best.
How does this represent the "fallen"??

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Perhaps if enough from the Wirral supported their local team rather than purporting to support the big boys from over the water (tunnel rats watching match of the day) then the club wouldn't need to sell land to survive.

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And as for tranmere wasting 1.3 million I think Wirral council got a lot more out of that than tranmere ever did they said they are goin to do a memorial for the fallen soldiers .

I also wonder how many of you anti tranmere ' let's knock down Prenton park ' will go to the big games when the bigger teams are in town mad

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To quote you "I thought" this was about a bloke from wirral, well no its not about a bloke from wirral,its about a bloke from wirral and 87other blokes from wirral who gave their lives,their Memorial field was paid for by bequests and public subscription to remember their sons NOT by the council nor the government,it is now basically been stolen by the council and sold to a football club who are going to sell it on for an obcene profit, so your wonderful tranmere are sh...... all over the goodwill of those Birkenhead people that gave out of rememerance and goodwill.

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Plastic scouse lowlifes, tunnel rats,I see the debate has sunk to playground name calling,na na nan na my teams better than yours,your from Birkenhead you have got to support your team that seems to be the theme from most on here,if a lot of you paid more attention to what is happening in this country today and put as much effort into trying to make it fairer place as you put into worshipping your football teams we would all be better off.

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If I'm not mistaken wasn't there a set of memorial gates at Ingleborough that Tranmere where meant to be the guardians of and they have now dissapeared from the site most likely to the local scrap man?


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