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Thankyou mate,you started a topic with the intention to start a reaction.It is a human being who has died.
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we will party tonight,this cow brought families to their knees and poverty,unless your rich or stupid you should be happy You think your better off now? HAHAHAHAHAHHA
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Nothing more to say on this topic, as it's really unnecessary to argue with anyone who would compare Margaret Thatcher to bin Laden and Hitler. You are entitled to your opinion, same as anyone else but you really do yourselves no favours by showing such vitriolic hatred.
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Vitriolic hatred?
I was espousing the stupidity of not being allowed to criticise a person's actions because of their death.....
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Yes. And you have completely missed the point. No one was saying anyone can't cricize someone's actions just because of their death. Criticize away all you like. The objection was/is to those who were celebrating that death and yes, as I read it, there were indeed expressions of hatred and vitriol.
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No need to argue people.
If it carries on the thread will be removed by the site owner.
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I must accept my share of any blame for getting sucked into responding to (what I now see was) blatant trolling. Grrrrr...
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Looking back, what did Thatcher actually do with her time in office?
Kicking off with the unions who had grown too powerful and needed restraining she wasn't content with curtailing them and forging partnerships between management and workers for the common good. She set out to crush them with the old tried and tested divide and rule strategy of unemployment funded by the North Sea reserves. Create an era of mass unemployment and people will naturally fear losing their jobs as employment law was totally biased in favour of employers and she made it more so. Again I agree that the unions needed a kick up the arse but splitting communities and even families wasn't the way.
There's a huge affordable housing problem today and housing benefit's a hot topic, why? Simply because Thatcher sold off a huge proportion of the stock at knock down prices, then to compound this the government took the revenue raised not allowing councils to use it for building. Nothing wrong with tenents being allowed to buy their homes but 70% discounts take a lot of believing and they couldn't do that in the private sector.
The knock on effect now is that the majority of housing benefit paid out now goes to private landlords and per capita is far more expensive than council housing. A fact that this government wont acknowledge but nonetheless is true. The sale policy was no more than gerrymandering on a huge scale and we're still as taxpayers paying the price.
Then there's the privatisation of the utilities and state owned profitable companies. Again at knock down prices so we the public could make a quick hundred quid or so before the big boys then go on to fleece us for years to come. These companies were adding to the exchequer year on year and under control regarding what they could charge us the public, a win win, we owned them as we do the banks now. More gerrymandering, just "Ask Sid"!
The heath service and schools were ran into the ground, the waiting list for hip operations was years long as an example and many would do their bit to reduce the delay by dying before they got their op. School buildings were crumbling, books and learning tools were in scarce supply. No wonder a whole generation was lost and now form the rump of the long term unemployed.
But there was a contrast that would also come back to bite us in the arse in 2008, bank and financial services deregulation. "Big Bang" day came and the city dealers were rained on with cash, fortunes could be made in minutes and the "Yuppie" was born. The bigger the risk the higher reward and the death of the real bank manager was in sight. She knew how to look after her own doaners!
Her finest moment was the Poll Tax, the tax she portrayed to be fair as each individual would pay the same regardless of means to pay. The tax that meant that a single person living in a bedsit paid the same as the owner of a country estate, no wonder there was riots and ultimately it was her end. Unfortunately not before she'd done so much damage it was impossible for most of it to be undone.
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Probably half of you making the most disgusting comments were not even born, when Mrs Thatcher was Prime Minister. If you were, you were no doubt in short pants or nappies. It would seem that you still have not grown up into any form of decent adulthood. Those opposed to her remember the bits that have been imprinted by others, she did very much more. I have my own opinions on her and they are not all wonderful, but I do understand she did a lot for the country in many ways which didn't please all people all of the time. So what's new? It would be a decent thing to respect the dead at least, and those who don't want to say anything worth while in accordance with decency, should refrain. Many of these remarks show the true blood of so many. How disgusting.
She was a party to stopping a nuclear war!
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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I'm sorry if I upset everyone and would like to have my account closed asap please mark why have forums where no-one can say what they think anyway bye bye :wave: and to the people cryin please stay away from twitter for the next two weeks again sorry for make people cry or upsetting them mark as I'm sooooooooo bad please delete my account no go one better delete my ip address please :wave:
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I'm sorry if I upset everyone and would like to have my account closed asap please mark why have forums where no-one can say what they think anyway bye bye :wave: and to the people cryin please stay away from twitter for the next two weeks again sorry for make people cry or upsetting them mark as I'm sooooooooo bad please delete my account no go one better delete my ip address please :wave: I second that, Please delete this idiots account. It amazes me how people can show such disrespect for a persons life. How would you feel if it was your mother/partner and you saw people saying such disgraceful things. You may not have agreed with her politically but she is still someone's family.
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Personally, I shall neither be mourning nor celebrating. I was no fan of MT and have never voted Conservative.
Of the few good things she did for us I shall be eternally grateful for the abolition of the twin evils that were school milk and Merseyside County Council.
When it comes to the coal industry, we seem to have forgotten that it was a vile, filthy industry which killed and injured thousands and polluted the country to hell. At the time of its demise, it was leeching millions off the taxpayer in state subsidies which should righfully have gone to the schools and NHS.
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Why the hell was school milk evil?
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as there been anyone that has died lately that has this much affect,every single person i have met in my job today hated the ground she walk on?i hated her and i will say what i like because i can
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