Forums Forums Local News Wirral claimants have their benefits capped

I agree, wealthy pensioners should not get winter fuel or any other benefits, and well off families with children should not recieve child allowance etc,

Too put it in simple terms then.... if your on benefits, ANY KIND OF BENEFIT. You either get your rent paid for, free school meals, milk,car with a blue badge, holidays, glasses, dentists all paid for. WORKERS however have to pay for all theses as well as pay their tax and national insurance, so tell me again who is worse of, yes the ones who work.

Everyone that works knows that non workers have big tv,s, latest phones(with internet), smokes, drinks, goes to bed at all hours, sits on pc all night, have chips on their shoulders thinking the state owns them more.
Simple really, non workers are better off, they don't have to work each day doing 3 peoples jobs cos as people have left they haven't been replaced. They don't have to pay money for travel costs to and from job, these are paid from wages that have been cut or froze. SO WORKERS are picking up the same wage as 3 years ago but the price of everything has doubled at least in that time.

Yes sneezy, those on benefits don't think about what they get for free already they want to bleed those that work dry so they can have even bigger tv,s and more booze.
We have all seen those we no that don't work in pubs boozing away the days during the summer time , getting taxis to the dole office to sign on and oh someone that was a typical looking smackhead sitting on the train the other day with a can of beer talking on his I PHONE.

Whats all this 'everyone that works knows'? Don't presume to speak for me, you only speak for scrunched up people who are angry with their own impotency in life. Your selfishness and blind animosity towards your fellow man disgusts me.
I'm just about lucky enough to be in a position to pay myself enough to get by on, and that hasn't always been the case, and may not be the case in the future. My work and the disposable income in my pocket has alway been, and always will, be at the mercy of capitalism. It's not poor people who make your life harder... more likely rich people do.
Yes paying taxes is a pain, the cost of everything has gone up and wages hasn't, but I will NEVER be so delusional as to blame 'non workers' (sic) for my failings with life.
Big telly's? Latest phones with internet? Drink, drugs and they can stay up late? Get real, you're the one with the chip on your shoulder. Everyone I know, everyone I ever met, who is unemployed is miserably poor. Whilst the poor may well be idle you could, at the very least, credit them with the desire to be busy and rich. Don't be so bitter and take ownership of your life.

Well said Shambo

Well said Shambo.Unfortunately certain parts of the media home in on exceptional cases of unemployed people who by hook or by crook appear to have all kinds of luxuries.These cases are then taken to be the norm by many.Yes it is true that at the lower ends of pay scales people may be almost as well off as if they did not work.I count myself lucky to have kept in work all my life and I think anybody with any sort of self esteem would much rather work than stay at home. The problem is that the longer people are out of work the harder it is to get back and then I imagine personal targets move slowly downwards.

Well said Shambo.Unfortunately certain parts of the media home in on exceptional cases of unemployed people who by hook or by crook appear to have all kinds of luxuries.These cases are then taken to be the norm by many.Yes it is true that at the lower ends of pay scales people may be almost as well off as if they did not work.I count myself lucky to have kept in work all my life and I think anybody with any sort of self esteem would much rather work than stay at home. The problem is that the longer people are out of work the harder it is to get back and then I imagine personal targets move slowly downwards.

Im lucky in that I've worked non stop for 20 years, what ive said is what others I work with now and in the past have said. We all see with our own eyes those that dont work get more help or free stuff but when you work but on low wages you dont get any help. Me, sorry no chip on my shoulder mate, im one of the lucky ones were all of us in the house work.

It certainly doesn't come across in your previous posts that you feel lucky! And you do have a tendency to generalise about every unemployed person being well off and living the high life. That simply isn't true.

Yes, you'll always get a few people who know how to work the system just as you get some colleagues who know how to look busy without actually doing anything.

If being unemployed was such a good thing then surely a lot more people would be on the dole?

Oh dear, my posts are some of my opinions and also those of my work colleagues. So im not sitting here posting away with a chip on my shoulder, no im sitting here quite calm actually and adding to the discussion. Yes there are those on benefits because they have lost their job through no fault of their own. But there are those on benefits that are now onto the 3rd generation of no one working and no its not worth getting out of bed to just earn a extra fiver a week.

Im sure you have read the papers about people receiving 25k a year claiming benefits because they can't walk and yet they are pictured on a sking holiday. Everyday there is a story like that, if they were vetted properly at the start millions wouldn't be taken out of the state pension pot.

I think you're missing the point (deliberately) Sue. These stories that make the headlines do so because they are rare. If they were as common place as you seem to think they certainly wouldn't make front page news.

Ask yourself how many people you actually know (not stories you've read) that are claiming benefits and are well off?

Another myth-buster link- you won't find this in the red tops.

http://www.redpepper.org.uk/mythbuster-welfare-reform/