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Yes SUExx, balanced comments, the low paid, redundancies, disablement that's what the money is for,those that have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own, however there are those on here that are content to stick labels on all benefit claimants, as worthless, and put themselves forth as icons of achievement, I remember on old saying," I would'nt like to be in a lifeboat with him/her, basically meaning they look after themselves first.
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I don't think anyone begrudges a lift up for those who are in need through no fault of their own, it's the blatant fiddlers that get people's back up and it's the same fiddlers who leave less in the pot to assist those who genuinely are in the clag. JMO
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My thoughts too, Bandycoot, just letting a bit of steam off, as some cant grasp the difference between benefit fiddlers and benefit claimants.
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I don't think anyone begrudges a lift up for those who are in need through no fault of their own, it's the blatant fiddlers that get people's back up and it's the same fiddlers who leave less in the pot to assist those who genuinely are in the clag. JMO Nail... Head. My views are probably OTT and distorted. The only people on benefits I've ever known have been workshy, alcoholic layabouts. I don't begrudge people in need whatsoever.
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Anyone watch the programme called benefit street,channel 4 at 9.00pmThe bit that really got me was the woman laughing about having to pay her so called bedroom tax.She grudged paying it but she still made sure her booze and fags came first as a priority.
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I for one did not watch this, but i knew ' some how' that it would be by some , and was expecting the type of comments by the two above me ......How do you know people on benefits all drink and smoke.....Same old......
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How do you know people on benefits all drink and smoke.....Same old...... I don't... just the ones I know. Oh, and the ones Candyfloss saw on the TV. Nobody has ever said they begrudge the genuinely needy, and I'm the first to help people out either indirectly through my taxes or through offering my time and/or other donations that I no longer want or need that can help others. I think it's our moral duty as some are luckier than others. What really gets my back up is those that won't help themselves, expect everything on a plate, or take take take.
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How do you know people on benefits all drink and smoke.....Same old...... I don't... just the ones I know. Oh, and the ones Candyfloss saw on the TV. Nobody has ever said they begrudge the genuinely needy, and I'm the first to help people out either indirectly through my taxes or through offering my time and/or other donations that I no longer want or need that can help others. I think it's our moral duty as some are luckier than others. What really gets my back up is those that won't help themselves, expect everything on a plate, or take take take. spot on you got a point.I was just asking about the programme and the above is off topic ???.Well anyone who want to watch its on monday on channel 4 at 9.00pm.
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I watched the programme and at least we know now how to fund our "bedroom tax"; grow cannabis in your spare room. I live in the Midlands and in the news programme "Midlands today" after the BBC 6 o'clock news, many residents of that street were up in arms about the programme, claiming that Channel 4 had resorted to selective editing, (which I'm sure is the case). However, I was disturbed by the lifestyle of many of the residents shown; most seemed to smoke and drink and it showed a lot of shoplifting. The programme claimed that "most" of the residents were on some kind of benefit, which must be true or Channel 4 would not have been able to claim it. One of the claimants said that "only 5% of residents were working". What shocked me was that the benefit system is so lax that people were still getting benefits even after they had been refused; the system needs to be tightened. I feel really sorry for the minority of residents who work and pay their taxes. I'm pretty sure that the programme could equally well have been made in many other streets across the country. I will certainly watch the rest of the series. For anyone who missed it and want to see it, it's available on 4OD.
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The trouble with these sort of fly on the wall programmes is as you say selective, usually extremes be it either rich or poor, they never seem to show what I would class as ordinary families, dad either goes out to work as a solicitor, or dad is unemployed what about dad the car worker or mum the shop assistant those on medium to low wages, these are no doubt the type of working families struggling the most, its usually all about sensationalism, and again stigmatises the benefit claimant many of whom are unemployed through no fault of their own, because they are portrayed as feckless layabouts by certain parts of the media.
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The trouble with these sort of fly on the wall programmes is as you say selective, usually extremes be it either rich or poor, they never seem to show what I would class as ordinary families, dad either goes out to work as a solicitor, or dad is unemployed what about dad the car worker or mum the shop assistant those on medium to low wages, these are no doubt the type of working families struggling the most, its usually all about sensationalism, and again stigmatises the benefit claimant many of whom are unemployed through no fault of their own, because they are portrayed as feckless layabouts by certain parts of the media. Its a must watch the whole street is unemployed.Give us a feedback on your veiws,
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Casper, i totally agree with everything you say, I have raised two children many years ago as a 'working' single mother, Some people seem to 'fixate 'on the benefit claimants without knowing all the facts.
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I watched the first episode there was only, Peter Andre missing,it reminded me of some parts of the North end, I can understand how people associate benefit claimants with benefit scroungers, but you must understand that this program was an extreme example of sensationalism and doesn't reflect the behaviour of the majority on benefits, IDS must be rubbing his hands and Ms McVile will be standing up in parliament to justify her mealy mouthed attack on the benefits system.
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Its a must watch the whole street is unemployed.Give us a feedback on your veiws, I'm sure there was enough distortion in the programme without you adding to it: the whole street is NOT unemployed.
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I watched the first episode there was only, Peter Andre missing,it reminded me of some parts of the North end, I can understand how people associate benefit claimants with benefit scroungers, but you must understand that this program was an extreme example of sensationalism and doesn't reflect the behaviour of the majority on benefits, IDS must be rubbing his hands and Ms McVile will be standing up in parliament to justify her mealy mouthed attack on the benefits system. Haha Peter Andre was missing.No katie price ither.
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